On 01/13 11:19, Dale wrote:
> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> > On 01/13 10:29, Dale wrote:
> >> tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Is it posible to use Firefox wihout pulseaudio installed?
> >>> If "yes" -- how can I acchieche this?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot for any help in advance!
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>> Meino
> >>>
> >> I found this. 
> >>
> >> https://codelab.wordpress.com/2017/12/11/firefox-drops-alsa-apulse-to-the-rescue/
> >>
> >>
> >> I read a bit and it may be interesting or may not but it seems to have
> >> some sort of solution.  If it doesn't, my Firefox is likely to be quiet,
> >> whether it wants to or not.  Then again, Palemoon may be a option if I
> >> can get some addons to work. 
> >>
> >> Let's hope that helps, both of us.  :/
> >>
> >> Dale
> >>
> >> :-)  :-) 
> >>
> > Hi Dale,
> >
> > thanks for the informations!
> >
> > I tried Palemoon some time ago. I checked its security and privacy
> > feature with certain sites on the internet, which provide such
> > services and found some issues, which I wanted to discuss on their
> > forum. The answer was not to believe such sites and in result security
> > would be a matter of how much I believe in a certain software.  My
> > understanding is, that security is no believe system but a matter of
> > well done software engineering. Therefore I quit Palemoon and I am no
> > longer interested in it.
> >
> > I looked into the linked page and interestingly the solution suggested
> > is exactlu what makes me headaches now: I have a blocker:
> >
> >  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> >  * installed at the same time on the same system.
> >
> >   (media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.1.5:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> >     
> > >=media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.0.27-r1[pulseaudio,abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]
> >  (>=media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.0.27-r1[pulseaudio,abi_x86_64(-)]) 
> > required by (media-sound/pulseaudio-11.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> >     media-plugins/alsa-plugins required by @selected
> >
> >   (media-sound/apulse-0.1.10:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) 
> > pulled in by
> >     media-sound/apulse required by 
> > (www-client/firefox-bin-57.0.4-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> >
> >
> > ...and apulse is one of it.
> >
> > How can I get out of it?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Meino
> >
> 
> I'm still on the older Firefox but I get this here:
> 
> 
> root@fireball / # emerge -av apulse
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild  N     ] media-sound/apulse-0.1.10::gentoo  ABI_X86="(64) -32
> (-x32)" 108 KiB
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 108 KiB
> 
> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n
> 
> 
> If you are already on the newer Firefox, which I guess you are, then
> that may be what makes it block things.  So, I tried this:
> 
> 
> root@fireball / # emerge -av apulse firefox
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild  N     ] media-sound/apulse-0.1.10::gentoo  ABI_X86="(64) -32
> (-x32)" 108 KiB
> [ebuild   R   ~] www-client/firefox-56.0::x-portage [56.0::gentoo]
> USE="dbus gmp-autoupdate nsplugin startup-notification system-harfbuzz
> system-jpeg system-libevent system-libvpx system-sqlite -bindist
> -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -eme-free -hardened -hwaccel
> -jack (-neon) -pgo -pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-icu {-test} -wifi"
> L10N="-ach -af -an -ar -as -ast -az -bg -bn-BD -bn-IN -br -bs -ca -cak
> -cs -cy -da -de -dsb -el -en-GB -en-ZA -eo -es-AR -es-CL -es-ES -es-MX
> -et -eu -fa -ff -fi -fr -fy -ga -gd -gl -gn -gu -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -hy
> -id -is -it -ja -ka -kab -kk -km -kn -ko -lij -lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr
> -ms -nb -nl -nn -or -pa -pl -pt-BR -pt-PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -son
> -sq -sr -sv -ta -te -th -tr -uk -uz -vi -xh -zh-CN -zh-TW" 249,404 KiB
> 
> Total: 2 packages (1 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 249,512 KiB
> 
> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
> 
> 
> For some reason, it likes the idea.  So, differences between us.  I
> notice you are on a newer version of alsa than I am.  Here's mine: 
> 
> 
> [IP-] [  ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.1.2:0
> [IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.1.2:0.9
> 
> 
> Could it be that it doesn't like the newer version of alsa, yet at
> least?  Possible. 
> 
> Does that help any?  Could you drop to that lower version of alsa and
> see if it helps or is there a needed fix for you in that newer version? 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> P. S.  Keep in mind, I'd like to get this to work here too later on.  ;-) 
> 


Hi Dale,

one problem here is, that I am using firefox-bin, because compiling
firefox gave me compile errors in the past.

One dependency of firefox-bin is....pulseaudio.

Currently I am trying to compile firefox and will see how far it
goes...

Short question: What timezone you are?

Cheers
Meino





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