Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> On 08/08/18 11:43, Dale wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Long story short that leads up to my questions, I paid off some debt. 
>>
> Hi Dale,
>
>     what you are talking about is not a real backup but a single copy of
> your data that may or may not be complete (the delete option you
> mention) at a single point in time - not quite as useful as a proper
> versioned backup.  Whatever your choice, also look at the restore
> procedure - very important.
>
>
> Have a look at Dirvish or borgbackup (both in portage) for what they can
> do.  Having a space efficient store at regular points of time is a
> lifesaver at times. To restore from dirvish its a copy from the selected
> tree.  With borg its either restore with a command, or mount it and copy
> the data out of the mount.
>
> http://dirvish.org/
>
> https://www.borgbackup.org/
>
> I moved from dirvish to borg 12 months ago and they are both excellent.
>
> BillK
>

It's a backup to me.  I may not be using backup software but if I lose
the original file, I have another copy that I can back up from.  Given
that I have two drives that can currently hold the files I don't want to
lose for sure, I have two backup copies.  Whether it is called a backup
or called a copy doesn't matter.  All that matters is that if my drive
should fail, my computer blows up, my house burns down or any number of
other possibilities, I can restore the files if needed.  Whether it is a
technical backup or a copy ends the same way.  Maybe calling it a copy
is better.  :-)  Maybe I'm to old school. lol 

I will look into those software options tho.  Right now I have the rsync
commands to backup a few directories in a script.  It's not fancy but
basically one copies my camera pics, one copies my videos and the last
one copies my email directory.  In all honesty, if I have those three
things, everything else can be reinstalled or be reconfigured.  I'm not
trying or even planning to copy/backup the OS itself.  If something
happened and I had to rebuild or redo my system, I'd do a fresh install
anyway.  Having the config files would be nice but only IF it wouldn't
cause more problems than it solves.  That was the reason for my question
about using --delete on config files.  I tend to backup/copy the files
in /etc until I reboot then I start a new set.  That way if I run into a
problem, I can either use the old file in whole or take parts of it
until I get whatever working again.  I haven't ran into that problem in
a really long time tho.  I can't recall the last time I do to be
honest.  It's been years, many years.  I'm not sure on the config files
in my home directory tho.  I know KDE does some weird things during some
major upgrades. 

As for restore, easy, rsync the files back over.  Even if the
permissions are messed up, I can fix that easy enough.  Other than that,
I'm not sure what other problem I could run into.  The biggest thing,
having a copy I can use if I lose the originals.  Also, with them being
plain copies, I can take the drive to a friend or family member and plug
the drive in to get to the videos, documents etc.  No special software
really needed.  Heck, for the videos, I could watch them straight from
the USB drive. 

Now to go check into those backup programs.  Borg.  Sounds Star Trekish
to me, or was that Star Wars.  ROFL 

Thanks much for the info. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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