Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:35:25AM -0500, Dale wrote
>> Walter Dnes wrote:
>>> Total: 377 packages (298 upgrades, 52 new, 2 in new slots, 25 reinstalls), 
>>> Size of downloads: 1,408,922 KiB
>>>
>>> ...wish me luck.
>>>
>>
>> Glad to help.  I get a lot of help from this list so nice to give back a
>> little.  ;-)
>>
>> Happy compiling.  Keep the thing cool.
> time emerge --changed-use --deep --update @world
>
> ...gave me...
>
>  * IMPORTANT: 40 config files in '/etc' need updating.
>  * See the CONFIGURATION FILES and CONFIGURATION FILES UPDATE TOOLS
>  * sections of the emerge man page to learn how to update config files.
>
>  * IMPORTANT: 4 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
>  * Use eselect news read to view new items.
>
>  * After world updates, it is important to remove obsolete packages with
>  * emerge --depclean. Refer to `man emerge` for more information.
>
> real    293m20.427s
> user    366m20.734s
> sys     71m22.050s
>
>   I also noticed a whole slew of perl packages updating when I ran
> "emerge -pv", so I followed up with "perl-cleaner --reallyall",  which
> went through a bunch of packages.  Lesson learned, update the notebook
> more often.
>


That's one downside to Gentoo, it doesn't like being stale.  As you just
experienced, not updating Gentoo creates a time consuming and often
confusing process to get back up to date.  If I were to want to install
something that I couldn't keep up to date, update at least once a month,
I'd use some other distro for that machine.  Going 3 months or more can
lead to enough problems but going a year or so is a big problem. 
Depending on what all has changed, it can even be faster to reinstall
than update. 

If I were advising a new person trying to Gentoo, I'd recommend going no
more than a month between updates.  If that person can't upgrade at
least once every three months, I'd suggest another distro.  At some
point, it just becomes to much trouble. 

That's not a knock at the devs either.  It's just the way Gentoo is
since it follows upstream so closely.  In all honesty, way back, it was
even harder to upgrade a machine way out of date.  The devs who code
emerge have made a lot, make that huge, progress in making emerge find
ways around blocks and such.  Still, regular updates is easier in my
opinion than waiting to long. 

I have to admit tho, if I had a laptop which comes with cooling issues
plus being slower than a desktop, I'd likely go to once a month updates
unless I could compile on my desktop then move the binaries over to the
laptop. 

Glad you got it going and I could help in some small way. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S. I've been learning Kicad and even ordered some circuit boards. 
It's getting dangerous over here.  :/

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