On Tuesday 30 September 2008, Jon Hardcastle wrote: > > > > Jon Hardcastle wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, i have spent the weekend > > > > trying to get > > > > > > my new > > > > > > > > > > Hauppage USB tv stick to > > > > > > > > > > > > > work under linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been constantly perplexed > > > > by > > > > > > references to > > > > > > > > > > compilable kernel modules > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't see! I assumed it > > > > was because > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > referred to old modules or > > > > > > > > > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But having downloaded and booted > > > > into > > > > > > Knoppix and run > > > > > > > > > > make menuconfig on > > > > > > > > > > > > > that i have confirmed that kernel > > > > seems to > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > 10's of TV card chipset > > > > > > > > > > > > > drivers availible to compile > > > > whereas > > > > > > > > gentoo-sources/vanilla-sources emerged > > > > > > > > > > > > > on my machine have maybe 2 or 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone offer me some > > > > assistance as to > > > > > > why this > > > > > > > > > > might be? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (This is my first mailing list > > > > post - please > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > gentle!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because a large part of the dvb/tv > > > > drivers are > > > > > > developed > > > > > > > > > > outside of the main > > > > > > kernel tree. Also a large part is > > > > hidden under > > > > > > > > experimental. > > > > > > > > > > > > For my dvb-t stick I need to checkout a > > > > mercurial > > > > > > rep and > > > > > > > > > > do a make, make > > > > > > install in it do get drivers that work. > > > > And with > > > > > > > > 'work' I mean: no sound on > > > > > > first try, but after disconnecting the > > > > stick and > > > > > > > > reconnecting it, it suddenly > > > > > > works. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I went thru this process but i still > > > > dont have the > > > > > > option to add > > > > > > > > > support as a kernel module. Should the > > > > mercurial add > > > > > > steps to the > > > > > > > > > menuconfig? > > > > > > > > no. > > > > it just installs all the drivers in the rep as > > > > modules. It > > > > > > doesn't touch any > > > > configs at all. > > > > > > Hmmm i wonder why i have seen sooo many references to > > > > alot more kernel > > > > > options than i have in either my gentoo-sources or > > > > vanilla-sources. > > > > because they patch their kernel. > > > > > Is it > > > possible to 'patch' the kernel source instead > > > > of downloading using > > > > > mercurial. Also how does it 'know' what kernel > > > > to make the modules > > > > > available under? I have 3 sets of kernel code on my > > > > machine? > > > > a) /usr/src/linux > > b) uname -r > > c) just make clean && make&& make install > > for every kernel. > > > > Why patch at all? with the rep and make&& make > > install you get all the > > drivers. It is not that much 'overhead' compared to > > the work of patching the > > kernel. And you don't even need to worry about which > > driver you need - > > autoloading will do that for you ;) > > Hi, cheers for all your help so far. If you are sure they were patching the > kernel and hence the extra options I am happy to draw a line under that > line of investigation.. as i wondered if i was using the wrong kernel or > something. > > Secondly I dont really understand the commands you have given me there. I > have my 3 kernels yes at /usr/src with a symlink pointing to my active one > which DOESN'T have any DVB stuff compiled in at all. I got the latest > gentoo-sources kernel to experiment with and ultimately to switch over to, > booted into it.. and downloaded the v4l using mercurial did the make > install and it all worked grandly. but how do i know where it has put its > modules, if it puts them under /usr/src/linux or gets any kernal info from > there then they are in the wrong place. But if it is clever enough to know > what kernel i am currently booted into and put them in the correct place > accordingly then I am still stumped as i cant get this blasted card to > work.
it should put the modules in the correct lib/modules/`uname -r `directory. What doesn't work? Do you load the right modules? Is it sound? > > Can you also recommend some kernel debug options i can turn on? Can they be > done as parameters to the kernel instead of compiled in? i have plug and > play debug and some USB debug but i'd like more! no, not really. All problems I ever had were 'it just doesn't work, use external modules', 'no sound, reconnect card' and 'no sound, because I forgot to unmute someone'.
