090917 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Mittwoch 16 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote: > > Faced with the KDE 4 steamroller rumbling & shuddering ever closer, > > I've been trying out the 4.3.1 versions of apps I frequently use. > > I have not installed the desktop management part of KDE, > > only the apps themselves & whatever deps they require: > > Fluxbox is my desktop manager of choice. > fluxbox is not a manager. It is merely a window manager.
It manages my desktop much better than KDE 4.2.1 did ... > KDE can use all ICCCM adhering WM. How can "KDE use WM" ? -- your words make no sense in English. >> Konsole 4.3.1 -- very much dumbed down from 3.5.10 ; >> big problem: it seems impossible to predetermine window size; >> result: back to 3.5.10 & be prepared to use Xterm & Xfce's Terminal. > strange, every konsole window I open has the same size. Exactly: I want different sizes for different uses. Xterm does it, Terminal does it, Konsole 3.5.10 did it via command flags, but these have disappeared in Konsole 4.3.1 (try 'konsole --help'). > Also, do you have tried the geometry setting? right click on title, > window specific settings, create profil, put size into profile done. When I right-click on the titlebar, I get a Fluxbox list of options, none of which is "window-specific" nor relates to profil(e)s. Of course, I've tried editing profiles, but it has no effect on size; I also checked Google for 'resizing konsole' & similar. >> Okular 4.3.1 -- usable, but no noticeable improvement on Kpdf 3.5.10 . > that is a joke, right? No, it's very serious: KDE 4 is jazzed up visually & dumbed down in options. Okular is as described when compared with Kpdf 3 . >> Konqueror 4.3.1 -- no way to import bookmarks, >> but they are easily copied from ~/.kde3.5 , as are style sheets; > wrong. bookmark editor: 'File' 'import', 'import kde 3 bookmarks'. What is "bookmark editor" ? -- it's not a dependency of Konqueror 4 . My problem -- unlike other people's -- with your responses is that you are typically inaccurate both in content & in English. You are usually amusing, but I suspect that is not your intention. I am genuinely disappointed by KDE 4.3.1 , which I had hoped would be a real step forward given recent KDE PR announcements. Roughly 50 % options in KDE 3 have not been retained in KDE 4 & by now it's not simply that they haven't got around to implementing them: it's clear they don't intend to & are merely concentrating on eye-candy. It's utter madness, but with free software there are alternatives, which I have started to adopt (Fluxbox, Thunar, Terminal). Does anyone have useful comments, even "you can't do that any more" ? -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
