For those activities aimed at reducing the intensity of some major impacts
(e.g., limiting Arctic warming, limiting ocean warming in regions of
hurricane intensification, limiting ocean acidification), I think a more
appropriate term might well be "impact intervention"--save "geoengineering,"
"climate restoration," and "global temperature stabilisation" for the
efforts (e.g., by global sulfate injection, mirrors in space, etc.) to limit
global climate change.

Mike MacCracken

On 11/25/08 10:26 AM, "John Latham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello John, Ken et al.,
> 
> I've always liked "climate restoration" because - though we'll never
> achieve it precisely - it's what we're seeking, and is much less
> likely to scare the pants off the public than the imperious
> "geo-engineering".
> 
> But when we're trying to be as exact as possible my choice is "global
> temperature stabilisation". It is, in principle, possible to hold the
> Earth's average temperature (however it's defined) constant: whereas
> we can't restore the climate to exactly as it was - at least with
> current ideas & technology.
> 
> I think both these terms have their place: to be determined by circumstances.
> 
> Cheers,    John.
> 
>                               *****************
> 
> Quoting "John Nissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> Hi Ken,
>> 
>> Finding the right terminology is important in persuading people that
>>  what you are doing is sensible.
>> 
>> "Cooling" and "refrigeration" could bring fears of overdoing the
>> geoengineering, e.g. accidentally triggering an Ice Age (as some
>> journalists worry!).
>> 
>> I prefer the term "climate stabilisation".  We may need to cool the
>> Arctic well below its current temperature in order for the sea ice
>> to reform, but for non-polar regions (i.e. most of the rest of the
>> world), our initial aim should be to halt global warming - no more,
>> no less.  Basically the idea is to stop things getting worse.
>> 
>> But an even better term might be "climate restoration", as we'd like
>>  to stop droughts rather than prolong them, restore the Arctic to a
>> former condition, reverse the spread of deserts, etc.  Thus, if
>> possible, we could produce regional effects on climate for the
>> benefit of those regions that have been already adversely affected
>> by global warming.  BTW, this is where marine cloud brightening
>> could prove invaluable.
>> 
>> Politically, I think "restoration" has the better connotations and
>> sounds more valuable.  And it leaves open the door to negotiate how
>> far the restoration and to what original state/date (e.g. 80%
>> towards pre-industrial).
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Ken Caldeira
>>   To: geoengineering
>>   Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:10 AM
>>   Subject: [geo] the science and technology of climate cooling ???
>> 
>> 
>>   I'd like to toss two other names into the ring for direct
>> interventions into the climate system designed to cool Earth's
>> climate:
>> 
>>   1.  Climate refrigerators produce climate refrigeration
>> 
>>   Literally, "to refrigerate" means in its original sense is "to
>> cool again".  With threatened loss of Arctic systems, "cooling
>> again" is likely to be the goal.
>> 
>>   2. Climate cooler or climate cooling -- Colloquially, a "cooler"
>> is a "refrigerator" . With the Arctic losses, we may look to the
>> science and technology of climate cooling to reverse some of the
>> effects of global warming.
>> 
>>   ___________________________________________________
>>   Ken Caldeira
>> 
>>   Carnegie Institution Dept of Global Ecology
>>   260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA
>> 
>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>   http://dge.stanford.edu/DGE/CIWDGE/labs/caldeiralab
>>   +1 650 704 7212; fax: +1 650 462 5968
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 



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