Those are all great leads Sam - does anyone have a reference list for those schemes?
The problem I got slapped for is that apparently no-one OUTSIDE wikipedia uses the term 'hydrological geoengineering'. Basically, no-one has ever (it seems) ever sat down and created an 'order of battle' for the subject before. Some techniques even have several names! (space mirrors, space sunshade, geoengineering satellite, etc) Wikipedia it seems, takes a very dim view of contributors trying to create such an order - they are only permittted to document one that already exists. Can anyone help me by referring to some kind of standard nomenclature and classification? A 2008/12/30 Sam Carana <[email protected]>: > > Here are some thought that may be helpful, Andrew. > > How about first editing the webpage at > http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrology > Start a new sub branch called hydrological geoengineering > referring to the page at > http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrological_Geoengineering > > Then, on the latter page, include some geoengineering projects that > have been discussed for years, when the term geoengineering wasn't as > closely associated with global warming as it is today. Geoengineering > projects in the past included engineering projects that spanned entire > continents, such as the following three proposals to engineer rain in > Australia, the dry continent: > > - In 1998, John West came up with the idea of a 2,300km canal to split > Australia in two, from Darwin in the north to the Spencer Gulf in > South Australia. The canal would allow ships to access the center of > Australia and provide water for irrigation by means of desalination > plants. Much water would evaporate inland from the canal and > contribute to clouds and rain. > > - Lawrence James Hogan described in his book "Man-made mountain", 1979 > (ISBN: 0959557105) the idea to construct a mountain range, 2000km > long, 10km wide at the base, 4 km tall and with a 2km plateau at the > top, from the south of Australia to the Timor Sea in the north. The > idea was that this could create rain in the dry interior of Australia, > starting rivers that could fertilize large tracts of land. > > - Proposals to pipe or channel seawater into Lake Eyre were made as > far back as 1883. Lake Eyre is a usually dry lake which at its lowest > point is 15 meter below sea-level. Flooding Lake Eyre could create > clouds and rain for inland Australia, which could similarly turn > desert into fertile land. > > The above projects could be regarded as hydraulic or hydrological > geoengineering projects because of their scale and they all date back > more than a decade. > > You could also mention projects in China. For years there have also > been fears in India that China would start diverting water from the > Yarlung Zangbo River (upper reaches of the Brahmaputra) in the > Himalaya to the north of China. Two years ago, China's Water Resources > Minister Wang Shucheng, a hydraulic engineer, denied that there were > such plans, but the fears continue in India and Bangladesh. > > Because such plans affect huge amounts of people and span huge amount > of land, they are sometimes described as geoengineering projects. > Similarly, the Three Gorges Dam, constructed along the Yangtze river, > is - because of its huge scale - sometimes described as a hydrological > geoengineering project. > > In 2003, the Chinese government announced plans for a $60-billion > scheme to divert water from a tributary of the River Yangtze > northwards from three different locations, partly using the old Grand > Canal, which was built in imperial times to transport goods. Earlier > this month, New Scientist reported that the completion date for the > has been postponed and that the project is now in doubt. The eastern > route, using the ancient Grand Canal, is held up because factories are > polluting the canal. The western route, tapping the Yangtze headwaters > in Tibet, has not been started. Officials also blame pollution for the > latest delay to the middle route - a canal stretching more than 1200 > kilometres from the Danjiangkou reservoir on the River Han. > > Anyway, you could include such above projects on the page at > http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrological_Geoengineering > Then, you could mention a sub branch on that page called > arctic hydrological geoengineering > > Cheers! > Sam Carana > > > On Dec 30, 10:11 pm, "Andrew Lockley" <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Wikipedia is going to DELETE the hydrological geoengineering article >> as they say that the name is not found outside wikipedia (well >> spotted, I made it up). To stop this, I need to know what the PROPER >> term (used in the literature) for such projects are. In the meantime, >> I will probably have to move all the content onto the main geoeng page >> to preserve it - sorry if it then loos a bit cluttered. >> >> A > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
