You don't need a licence to squash air.  I'm not proposing a fuel -
I'm proposing to drive the diesel engine with windpower.

A

2009/1/28 David Schnare <[email protected]>:
> In the U.S., use of a compresion ignition engine requires certification of
> both the fuel and the engine (by EPA), and limits the amounts of priority
> pollutants that may be emitted from such an engine.  These include NOx, SOx
> and particulates, all of which will emerge from the scheme you are
> discussing.
>
> In a regulatory state, nothing is as easy as it seems.
>
> David Schnare
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Andrew Lockley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> You don't need a combustible fuel-air ratio provided that the
>> combustion doesn't need to be self-sustaining.  Once the correct
>> temperature is reached, any methane present will oxidise.  The
>> advantage of using a diesel engine is that it runs with minimal energy
>> input as the temperature can be changed without irrecoverable energy
>> input - the mix cools as it expands.  I thought about using a jet
>> engine - essentially an adapted turboprop or high-bypass turbofan, but
>> I think it would be more lossy.
>>
>> I don't agree that you'd be processing 'a few hundred cc'.  I envisage
>> building vast arrays of wind turbines, all connected to huge marine
>> diesel engines.
>>
>> Why would you need a catalytic convertor?  The CH4 just oxidises to
>> H20 and Co2.  I can see the benefit of a heat exchanger, and I already
>> thought of that.
>>
>> I covered the issue of hydroxl radical - it's created by ozone
>> photochemistry, so the best way to manipulate it seems to be by
>> delivering ozone to the stratosphere.
>>
>> A
>>
>> 2009/1/28 dsw_s <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> > Compression ignition requires a suitable ratio of fuel to air.  Even
>> > if compression in a diesel engine perfectly removed methane from the
>> > air, you're not going to process the atmosphere a few hundred cc at a
>> > time.  To remove methane from the air, I see two options: increase the
>> > amount of hydroxyl radical if there's enough methane to deplete it, or
>> > as you say build air-cooled CSP plants.  For the CSP option you would
>> > want a counter-flow heat exchanger and a catalytic converter on the
>> > outgoing air.
>> >
>> > On Jan 27, 2:03 pm, Andrew Lockley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> If you fixed up diesel engine to a wind turbine, you'd get compression
>> >> ignition of any methane residue in the atmosphere, even without
>> >> injecting any fuel.  This would be expensive, but I think it would
>> >> work.
>> >>
>> >> An alternative would be to pump air through concentrated solar power
>> >> plants
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts?  We appear to need some bright ideas on methane
>> >> remediation pretty soon.
>> >>
>> >> A
>> > >
>> >
>>
>> >>
>
>
>
> --
> David W. Schnare
> Center for Environmental Stewardship
>

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