Ken, Manu,

I did not go into primary data but had in front of me one or two respectable 
secondary sources that led to the "about 15Gt" number

Strand and Benford , 2008 Env Sci and Tech, quote 4.98 Pg/yr for residues from 
maize, wheat, soybeans, sugar cane, rice, sugar beet and barley.  Jason Clay in 
World Agriculture and the Environment (Island Press 2004) provides additional 
data for Cassava, Potatoes, Sorghum, Bananas, Sweet Potatoes, Plantain and 
Millet which I did not trouble to add in. Hall, et al in Renewable Energy (Eds 
Johansson et al, Island Press 1993) turn it all into EJ to get 35EJ for Maize, 
Wheat, Rice and Sugar Cane residues only, 41EJ for animal dung, (excluding 
human dung which pyrolyzes fine) and 35 EJ for timber residues.  Roughly 3 x 
4.98 led to 15Gt

Haberl et al must have it wrong since the global food yield for Strand and 
Benford's seven crops only (with an average harvest index of 0.44) is about 4 
Pg/yr or ~2PgC

9.5 Gt is actually about one sixth of global net primary productivity, not one 
tenth, but one must be cautious of treating global NPP as a given, as many 
ecologically focused writers seem to do.  

Nature (and much subsistence agriculture) optimises on resilience to secure 
survival of the fittest and is not productively efficient.  

Read and Parshotam, 2007, cited in the RS report, provide Illustrative 
calculations which show that, if managed efficiently, and with plausible 
technological progress, only about 2.2GHa is needed (at a take up rate of .088 
GHa for 25 years) to shift 1120Gt from linked ocean and atmosphere (in ratio 
~45:55) by 2060, leading to pre-industrial levels around mid-century.

I do not favour the vast monocultural developments that may seem to be implied, 
but rather a wider dissemination of carbon conservative and productively 
efficient management methods to land users worldwide.  The obstacle is not 
shortage of land but shortage of investment in land (and in land users' human 
capital) -- investment on a scale comparable with current investments in ever 
harder to get fossil fuels (i.e. tilling for bio-oil not drilling for fossil 
oil).

Peter.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken Caldeira 
  To: Manu Sharma 
  Cc: Peter Read ; [email protected] ; geoengineering 
  Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:18 PM
  Subject: [geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering



  How many watts per square meter of solar energy can be used to reduce carbon 
that can be stored as biochar? How many watts per square meter is needed to 
process this organic matter?

  Do you really think it reasonable to think that 10% of global primary 
productivity of land plants can be stored as biochar?

  Note that Haberl et al (2007) estimate that total global total food harvest 
is about 1.7 GtC / yr and global wood extraction is about 1 GtC / yr, so the 
9.5 PgC / yr number cited by Lehmann et al (2006) represents carbon flows that 
are more than 5 times bigger than all the food harvesting in the world and more 
than 9 times bigger than all wood extraction in the world. These kinds of flows 
may be physically possible, but I remain skeptical regarding the practical 
feasibility of producing biochar at this scales.

  Haberl, H., K.-H. Erb, F. Krausmann, V. Gaube, A. Bondeau, C. Plutzar, S. 
Gingrich, W. Lucht, M. Fischer-Kowalski, 2007. Quantifying and mapping the 
human appropriation of net primary production in earth’s terrestrial 
ecosystems. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA 104, 
12942-12947.

  ___________________________________________________
  Ken Caldeira

  Carnegie Institution Dept of Global Ecology
  260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA

  [email protected]; [email protected]
  http://dge.stanford.edu/DGE/CIWDGE/labs/caldeiralab
  +1 650 704 7212; fax: +1 650 462 5968  




  On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Manu Sharma <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thank you, Peter. Your arguments are well made. 


    Have you considered making a formal submission to the Royal Society for a 
review of their position on this issue?


    Manu



    On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Peter Read <[email protected]> wrote:


      Ken, Simon

      As it was I that said it, I had best front up.

      My objection on first reading was to the passage immediately following
      Simon's quote, which is a gratuitous shift from policy relevance to policy
      prescription, viz:
      "Biochar and other forms of sequestered biomass have not yet been 
adequately
      researched  and characterised, and so should not be eligible for carbon
      credits under the UNFCCC flexible mechanisms until there is a reliable
      system in place for verifying how much carbon is stored, and the wider
      social and environmental effects have been determined.  Substantial 
research
      will be required to achieve these conditions for methods other than BECS".

      However, as regards the words that Simon quotes, one concern is a matter 
of
      emphasis, interpretation and tone. For instance, there are in aggregate
      about 15Gt p.a. crop and forestry residues and animal dung, which may be
      expected to rise to 20Gtp.a. (with ~10Gtp.a. C content) with population
      increase to 9billions.  If the lot were pyrolyzed with 50 per cent C
      capture, and the product used for soil improvement, that would yield the
      lower end of the Lehman et al quoted range without any growth at all "in 
the
      resources devoted to producing" [[not "biofuels" but biochar is presumably
      intended]].  There would not be conflict with the use of agricultural land
      but synergy, with improved soil leading to increased crop yield.

      In a single sentence the RS writer manages to state that "using crops
      [PRESUMABLY HE/SHE MEANS CROP RESIDUES] for renewable fuels would be in
      conflict with using agricultural land for the production of food AND/OR
      BIOFUELS" !! Beyond the circular non-sequitur, the sentence is about
      biofuels and not about biochar at all.

      Next, a negativistic sentence "However, unless the sustainable 
sequestration

      rate exceeds around 1 GtC/yr, it is unlikely that it could make a large

      contribution." contains a false premise [as per the numbers above] which 
is
      then carried through to a prominent conclusion of low effectiveness in 
table
      2.4

      As regards final sentence that Simon quotes "might increase the cost and
      reduce the availability of food crops" is precisely the opposite of what
      would happen with conversion of currently largely wasted or inefficiently
      used farm and forestry residues to soil productivity enhancing biochar.

      As Ron Larson has noted, there is an extraordinary failure to quote the
      enormous positive literature on biochar, conveniently referenced and
      summarized in book format published in London IN MARCH 2009, within 2 
miles
      of the RS Carlton House Terrace headquarters [Biochar for Environmental
      Management, Eds J Lehmann and S Joseph, Earthscan] which contrasts 
strangely
      with the Report's favourable attitude to BECS where the literature is 
sparse
      (possibly a convenience) and where success is entirely dependant on the
      infant CCS technology.  There is not the slightest doubt that we know how 
to
      pyrolyze.

      As regards the gratuitous policy prescriptive paragraph, the establishment
      of a reliable system for verifying how much C is stored through commercial
      biochar application to soil is no different  from estimating fossil fuel
      emissions - quantities and quality assay will.become available through
      normal accountancy procedures and can be aggregated in the same way as is
      done for coal, except the movement is down into the gropund rather than up
      out of it.  As biochar is "finely divided pyrolyzed biomass prepared
      [expensively] for soil improvement" purchasers are not going to waste if 
for
      fuel (especially as preparation will likely involve wetting and doping 
with
      nutrients and/or fungal spores etc., somewhat spoiling combustion
      properties).  Nobody is talking about carbon credits for increased labile
      soil C resulting from increased productivity or about unregulated backyard
      operations, though much valuable experimentation is going on in that way.
      As regards  the RS concern over "the wider social and environmental 
effects
      "   it would be good to see the same applied to already large scale
      bioenergy before getting too excited about the (likely beneficial) social
      and environmental effects of infant biochar.

      While I do not generally favour ad hominem arguments it may be noted that
      there is not a single member of the working group and review panel that 
has
      a publishing record in the field of biochar.

      Hope that helps
      Peter





  



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