Please do not make references! I am a man of low profile and avoid publicity! My closest to these circles would be my Scanning Tunnelling Microscope Weber Bar Graviton Resonance Particle Detector which I submitted as a proposal to youth electronics planning competition and I became co-incidentally the co-inventor of this particle detector with Professor Gerd Binnig who did win Nobel Price for Physics in 1986. However, the third generation machines, LIGO Interferometry has taken over this method since the days I was involved in Physics.
Please note that I was a nominee, not a winner of the 2008 Guru Nanak Peace Prize, and how could I, unless I nail iron-clad proofs that the ice sheets of the past never melted but slid when the ice age ended during the previous global warming episodes. If I could prove that Greenland's ice dome pushes through Melville Bay barrier, then I might be in line-up, but I don't want that: world with suddenly higher sea level wouldn't be good place to live. (I leave climate porn publicity for Greenpeace and other writers desparate to scare us.) But as per geoengineering, it is one of the most worthwhile pursuits as our world is what it is at the moment, with the Arctic losing its marine sea ice cap at fast rate. Many thanks. Kr, Albert > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:02:32 -0700 > Subject: [geo] Re: I am Planning A New Geoengineering Foundation > From: pro...@worldnet.att.net > To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com > > > You have been speculating about my motives David. You seem to think > I'm motivated by greed and nothing else. You misunderstood what I'm > attempting here. I asked the group for advice on starting up a > geoengineering foundation. I wasnt asking for money itself. I want > information on what already existing foundations and sources of money > to promote geo engineering research are known to them. Ken thinks > there is nothing wrong with my topic and he is the moderator. The > foundation I'm talking about promotes the goals of the geoengineering > discussion group here. According to the rules I have a right to post > this topic. Tom has no ojections to my topic either. > Its news to me that Tom Wigley is Nobel Prize winner. Tom can you tell > us about your Nobel Prize? Veli, you're on the Nobel Prize Committee? > Thanks for your support. > It's important to have a foundation focused on what this group is > dedicated to discussing but with the goal of researching ways of > modifying the climate if they are warranted. > > On Oct 13, 4:53 am, David Schnare <dwschn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Neil, > > > > I've made no speculation about you, or about anyone. > > > > Indeed, I'm trying to stop speculation about anyone by anyone. > > > > I don't want to see Tom, a Nobel Laureat, drawn into this quagmire; and I > > don't want to see you pushed around. > > > > 'nuff said. > > > > David. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:50 PM, VNBC INC <pro...@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > > > GUIDELINES FOR POSTING TO THE GEOENGINEERING GOOGLEGROUP > > > > > 1. ALL POSTS SHOULD BE RELEVANT TO INTENTIONAL INTERVENTION IN THE > > > CLIMATE SYSTEM. > > > 2. NO POST MAY MAKE AN AD HOMINEM ATTACK OR SPECULATE ABOUT SOMEBODY > > > ELSE'S MOTIVATION. > > > 3. PLEASE SIGN YOUR POST WITH YOUR REAL NAME AND PREFERABLY ADDITIONAL > > > CONTACT INFORMATION. > > > > > This topic is RELEVANT TO INTENTIONAL INTERVENTION IN THE CLIMATE > > > SYSTEM. > > > > > It seems Schnare is speculating about my reasons for posting this > > > topic. Thats a rule violation. > > > > > His speculation is an ad hominem attack. > > > > > He and Gordon have made other ad hominem attacks that are unrelated to > > > the business at hand, Geo engineering solutions to a reverse runaway > > > greenhouse effect. > > > > > Shnare and Gordon both seem to have chip's on their shoulders. They > > > would rather make ad hominem attacks than make contributions to the > > > topic here or to further the goals of the Geo engineering group > > > itself. I'm not going to speculate about what motivates them but they > > > are obviously violating the rules. > > > > > I will call you about this Ken. > > > > > THIS WILL BE A LIGHTLY MODERATED EMAIL GROUP. Moderation will enforce > > > these two guidelines and eliminate other abuses ( advertising, foul > > > language, etc ) > > > > > On Oct 12, 10:21 pm, David Schnare <dwschn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Gents: > > > > > > It is time to shut this thread down. It is not in keeping with the > > > > rules > > > of > > > > the group. I appeal to Ken to apply his wisdom and admit we all are > > > > frustrated, but this is not a platform to allow that frustration to vent > > > on > > > > to anyone. Anyone. > > > > > > Those are our rules. Ken wrote them and we all agree to them or we > > > > leave > > > > the group. > > > > > > So, let it be. > > > > > > David > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Tom Wigley <wig...@ucar.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > The emphasis will be on geo-engineering as opposed to > > > > > > climactic research and ecology. > > > > > > > CLIMACTIC RESEARCH !!!! WOW. > > > > > > > Tom. > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > Ken Caldeira wrote: > > > > > > > > ... and I was hoping I could ask you for money !! > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:19 PM, VNBC INC <pro...@worldnet.att.net > > > > > > <mailto:pro...@worldnet.att.net>> wrote: > > > > > > > > I saw your webpage. Would the Carnegie Foundation fund my > > > foundation > > > > > > if it was dedicated to devising potential theoretical solutions > > > then > > > > > > testing them? The emphasis will be on geo-engineering as opposed > > > to > > > > > > climactic research and ecology. > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 11:31 pm, Ken Caldeira <kcalde...@gmail.com > > > > > > <mailto:kcalde...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > Where will the money come from ? > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:56 pm, Neil Farbstein <pro...@worldnet.att.net > > > > > > <mailto:pro...@worldnet.att.net>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking about starting up a nonprofit geoengineering > > > > > > foundation. > > > > > > > > We will study the problems of greenhouse warming and > > > > > geoengineering > > > > > > > > type ways of slowing it down or reversing it and the > > > > > circumstances > > > > > > > > under which this would be desirable. We will fund research > > > and > > > > > > > > development of a variety of means to accomplish those > > > > > > goals. > > > If > > > > > you > > > > > > > > are interested contact Neil Farbstein at pro...@att.net > > > > > > <mailto:pro...@att.net> > > > > > > > > or at 516-921-5058- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > David W. Schnare > > > > Center for Environmental Stewardship- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > David W. Schnare > > Center for Environmental Stewardship- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > _________________________________________________________________ Save time by using Hotmail to access your other email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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