Dear all, Saw this on TV the other day:
http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2007/sunshine.html Apparently this device can create fossil fuel equivalents from atmospheric C02 using only sunlight. Leaving aside the fuel aspect of the project, could this technology hold potential for large-scale carbon sequestration? Apologies if this is old news to everyone... Gus On 13/10/2009 20:07, "Veli Albert Kallio" <albert_kal...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Please do not make references! I am a man of low profile and avoid publicity! > My closest to these circles would be my Scanning Tunnelling Microscope Weber > Bar Graviton Resonance Particle Detector which I submitted as a proposal to > youth electronics planning competition and I became co-incidentally the > co-inventor of this particle detector with Professor Gerd Binnig who did win > Nobel Price for Physics in 1986. However, the third generation machines, LIGO > Interferometry has taken over this method since the days I was involved in > Physics. > > Please note that I was a nominee, not a winner of the 2008 Guru Nanak Peace > Prize, and how could I, unless I nail iron-clad proofs that the ice sheets of > the past never melted but slid when the ice age ended during the previous > global warming episodes. If I could prove that Greenland's ice dome pushes > through Melville Bay barrier, then I might be in line-up, but I don't want > that: world with suddenly higher sea level wouldn't be good place to live. > > (I leave climate porn publicity for Greenpeace and other writers desparate to > scare us.) > > But as per geoengineering, it is one of the most worthwhile pursuits as our > world is what it is at the moment, with the Arctic losing its marine sea ice > cap at fast rate. Many thanks. > > Kr, Albert > >> > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:02:32 -0700 >> > Subject: [geo] Re: I am Planning A New Geoengineering Foundation >> > From: pro...@worldnet.att.net >> > To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com >> > >> > >> > You have been speculating about my motives David. You seem to think >> > I'm motivated by greed and nothing else. You misunderstood what I'm >> > attempting here. I asked the group for advice on starting up a >> > geoengineering foundation. I wasnt asking for money itself. I want >> > information on what already existing foundations and sources of money >> > to promote geo engineering research are known to them. Ken thinks >> > there is nothing wrong with my topic and he is the moderator. The >> > foundation I'm talking about promotes the goals of the geoengineering >> > discussion group here. According to the rules I have a right to post >> > this topic. Tom has no ojections to my topic either. >> > Its news to me that Tom Wigley is Nobel Prize winner. Tom can you tell >> > us about your Nobel Prize? Veli, you're on the Nobel Prize Committee? >> > Thanks for your support. >> > It's important to have a foundation focused on what this group is >> > dedicated to discussing but with the goal of researching ways of >> > modifying the climate if they are warranted. >> > >> > On Oct 13, 4:53 am, David Schnare <dwschn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > Neil, >>> > > >>> > > I've made no speculation about you, or about anyone. >>> > > >>> > > Indeed, I'm trying to stop speculation about anyone by anyone. >>> > > >>> > > I don't want to see Tom, a Nobel Laureat, drawn into this quagmire; and I >>> > > don't want to see you pushed around. >>> > > >>> > > 'nuff said. >>> > > >>> > > David. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:50 PM, VNBC INC <pro...@worldnet.att.net> >>> wrote: >>> > > >>>> > > > GUIDELINES FOR POSTING TO THE GEOENGINEERING GOOGLEGROUP >>> > > >>>> > > > 1. ALL POSTS SHOULD BE RELEVANT TO INTENTIONAL INTERVENTION IN THE >>>> > > > CLIMATE SYSTEM. >>>> > > > 2. NO POST MAY MAKE AN AD HOMINEM ATTACK OR SPECULATE ABOUT SOMEBODY >>>> > > > ELSE'S MOTIVATION. >>>> > > > 3. PLEASE SIGN YOUR POST WITH YOUR REAL NAME AND PREFERABLY >>>> ADDITIONAL >>>> > > > CONTACT INFORMATION. >>> > > >>>> > > > This topic is RELEVANT TO INTENTIONAL INTERVENTION IN THE CLIMATE >>>> > > > SYSTEM. >>> > > >>>> > > > It seems Schnare is speculating about my reasons for posting this >>>> > > > topic. Thats a rule violation. >>> > > >>>> > > > His speculation is an ad hominem attack. >>> > > >>>> > > > He and Gordon have made other ad hominem attacks that are unrelated to >>>> > > > the business at hand, Geo engineering solutions to a reverse runaway >>>> > > > greenhouse effect. >>> > > >>>> > > > Shnare and Gordon both seem to have chip's on their shoulders. They >>>> > > > would rather make ad hominem attacks than make contributions to the >>>> > > > topic here or to further the goals of the Geo engineering group >>>> > > > itself. I'm not going to speculate about what motivates them but they >>>> > > > are obviously violating the rules. >>> > > >>>> > > > I will call you about this Ken. >>> > > >>>> > > > THIS WILL BE A LIGHTLY MODERATED EMAIL GROUP. Moderation will enforce >>>> > > > these two guidelines and eliminate other abuses ( advertising, foul >>>> > > > language, etc ) >>> > > >>>> > > > On Oct 12, 10:21 pm, David Schnare <dwschn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > > > > Gents: >>> > > >>>>> > > > > It is time to shut this thread down. It is not in keeping with >>>>> the rules >>>> > > > of >>>>> > > > > the group. I appeal to Ken to apply his wisdom and admit we all are >>>>> > > > > frustrated, but this is not a platform to allow that frustration to vent >>>> > > > on >>>>> > > > > to anyone. Anyone. >>> > > >>>>> > > > > Those are our rules. Ken wrote them and we all agree to them or >>>>> we leave >>>>> > > > > the group. >>> > > >>>>> > > > > So, let it be. >>> > > >>>>> > > > > David >>> > > >>>>> > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Tom Wigley <wig...@ucar.edu> wrote: >>> > > >>>>>> > > > > > The emphasis will be on geo-engineering as opposed to >>>>>>> > > > > > > climactic research and ecology. >>> > > >>>>>> > > > > > CLIMACTIC RESEARCH !!!! WOW. >>> > > >>>>>> > > > > > Tom. >>> > > >>>>>> > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++ >>> > > >>>>>> > > > > > Ken Caldeira wrote: >>> > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > ... and I was hoping I could ask you for money !! >>> > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:19 PM, VNBC INC >>>>>>> <pro...@worldnet.att.net >>>>>>> > > > > > > <mailto:pro...@worldnet.att.net>> wrote: >>> > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > I saw your webpage. Would the Carnegie Foundation fund my >>>> > > > foundation >>>>>>> > > > > > > if it was dedicated to devising potential theoretical solutions >>>> > > > then >>>>>>> > > > > > > testing them? The emphasis will be on geo-engineering as opposed >>>> > > > to >>>>>>> > > > > > > climactic research and ecology. >>> > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > On Oct 11, 11:31 pm, Ken Caldeira <kcalde...@gmail.com >>>>>>> > > > > > > <mailto:kcalde...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Where will the money come from ? >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 7:56 pm, Neil Farbstein >>>>>>>> <pro...@worldnet.att.net >>>>>>> > > > > > > <mailto:pro...@worldnet.att.net>> wrote: >>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > I'm thinking about starting up a nonprofit geoengineering >>>>>>> > > > > > > foundation. >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > We will study the problems of greenhouse warming and >>>>>> > > > > > geoengineering >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > type ways of slowing it down or reversing it and the >>>>>> > > > > > circumstances >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > under which this would be desirable. We will fund research >>>> > > > and >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > development of a variety of means to accomplish those goals. >>>> > > > If >>>>>> > > > > > you >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > are interested contact Neil Farbstein at pro...@att.net >>>>>>> > > > > > > <mailto:pro...@att.net> >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > or at 516-921-5058- Hide quoted text - >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - >>> > > >>>>> > > > > -- >>>>> > > > > David W. Schnare >>>>> > > > > Center for Environmental Stewardship- Hide quoted text - >>> > > >>>>> > > > > - Show quoted text - >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > David W. Schnare >>> > > Center for Environmental Stewardship- Hide quoted text - >>> > > >>> > > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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