Hi Ron,

Could you elaborate on why you think indemnification is not
appropriate to biochar or REDD+?  Is this simply because it isn't
necessary, or because granting indemnification might foster an
impression that these activities are potentially hazardous?

Josh


On May 13, 10:16 am, [email protected] wrote:
> Greg (cc list).
>
> Thanks for alerting us to this video, which I have watched. I learned a good 
> bit more from the pre-filed testimony and then reading the (not very long) 
> bill. The bill authorizes (but not appropriates) mainly for a still not quite 
> fixed indemnification process. I would expect the bill to be amended a bit 
> based on the testimony.
>
> Like you, I think the witness testimony is not very encouraging. I have one 
> friend closely watching the small number of available of CCS test results - 
> she says the program is a disaster. You don't pick that up clearly in this 
> hearing - but explains why indemnification is so important to everyone. It 
> seemed clear that the witnesses were unanimous that any Federal 
> indemnification must be temporary - and not be complete. Some liability now 
> appropriately remains with the developers.
>
> I was surprised that there was only oblique (very negative) reference to the 
> recent APS report on air capture.
>
> I think the whole Geoengineering discipline (this list) would benefit a lot 
> from a little more discussion along the lines of this hearing. Different 
> forms of both SRM and CDR would seem to have quite different risk (and needed 
> indemnification) profiles. If that discussion has reached the same level of 
> sophistication as exemplified here (especially the last witness), I have 
> missed it. The (maximum of ) 10 CCS projects will have a total of $10 billion 
> in Federally assumed responsibility. There was agreement that this is 
> appropriate only at this early stage. (Not clear if this is a maximum of $1 
> billion each - or cumulative $10). Getting something similar through the UN 
> for similar SRM activities appears daunting. I think there is a much smaller 
> risk and need for insurance indemnification for the CDR areas that don't 
> involve underground sequestration.
>
> Based on this hearing, I would now argue strongly that Federal 
> indemnification NOT be requested/allowed for the REDD+ or Biochar forms of 
> CDR.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Rau" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:35:40 PM
> Subject: [geo] Senate hearing
>
> For those interested, archived webcast of Thurs Senate hearing on CCS and air 
> capture here:
>
> http://energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.LiveStr...
>
> But perhaps I can save you the agony of watching. The continued economic 
> unviability of CCS comes to the fore (despite billions of investment), and 
> now more is being requested to indemnify projects. Air capture is finally 
> mentioned for a few sentences at about 51:30 into the session. No air capture 
> experts were present. Very depressing given what's at stake and what little 
> progress on CO2 stabilization has been made (and will be made) on the present 
> course.
>
> -Greg
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