*
" **If you are not frightened by this fact, then you are ignoring or 
denying science.*...*a more humble climate scientist... has asked, “How can 
you engineer a system you don’t understand?”*

Since when has lack of understanding  of complex systems been an impediment 
to unbridled political advocacy?

If anything is scary, it's  Alan and Clive's confidence in adducing social 
engineering as a substitute for science policy.



On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:26:05 PM UTC-4, Alan Robock wrote:
>
>  Dear all,
>
> I agree with virtually everything in Clive's op-ed in the New York Times 
> today.  That is because I wrote it several years ago, first in my 20 
> reasons why geoengineering might be a bad idea, and then in several 
> articles since then.  But he gives no indication that these are not his 
> original ideas.  
>
> You can see all my papers at 
> http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock/robock_geopapers.html 
>
> Here is the op-ed:
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/opinion/geoengineering-our-last-hope-or-a-false-promise.html?hp&pagewanted=print
> Geoengineering: Our Last Hope, or a False Promise? By CLIVE HAMILTON 
>
> CANBERRA, Australia — THE concentration of carbon dioxide in the earth’s 
> atmosphere recently 
> surpassed<http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/science/earth/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-long-feared-milestone.html>400
>  parts per million for the first time in three million years. If you are 
> not frightened by this fact, then you are ignoring or denying science. 
>
> Relentlessly rising greenhouse-gas emissions, and the fear that the earth 
> might enter a climate emergency from which there would be no return, have 
> prompted many climate scientists to conclude that we urgently need a Plan 
> B: geoengineering. 
>
> Geoengineering — the deliberate, large-scale intervention in the climate 
> system to counter global 
> warming<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier>or
>  offset some of its effects — may enable humanity to mobilize its 
> technological power to seize control of the planet’s climate system, and 
> regulate it in perpetuity. 
>
> But is it wise to try to play God with the climate? For all its allure, a 
> geoengineered Plan B may lead us into an impossible morass. 
>
> While some proposals, like launching a cloud of mirrors into space to 
> deflect some of the sun’s heat, sound like science fiction, the more 
> serious schemes require no insurmountable technical feats. Two or three 
> leading ones rely on technology that is readily available and could be 
> quickly deployed. 
>
> Some approaches, like turning biomass into biochar, a charcoal whose 
> carbon resists breakdown, and painting roofs white to increase their 
> reflectivity and reduce air-conditioning demand, are relatively benign, but 
> would have minimal effect on a global scale. Another prominent scheme, 
> extracting carbon dioxide directly from the air, is harmless in itself, as 
> long as we can find somewhere safe to bury enormous volumes of it for 
> centuries. 
>
> But to capture from the air the amount of carbon dioxide emitted by, say, 
> a 1,000-megawatt coal power plant, it would require air-sucking machinery 
> about 30 feet in height and 18 miles in length, according to a study by 
> the American Physical 
> Society<http://www.aps.org/policy/reports/assessments/upload/dac2011.pdf>, 
> as well as huge collection facilities and a network of equipment to 
> transport and store the waste underground. 
>
> The idea of building a vast industrial infrastructure to offset the 
> effects of another vast industrial infrastructure (instead of shifting to 
> renewable energy) only highlights our unwillingness to confront the deeper 
> causes of global warming — the power of the fossil-fuel lobby and the 
> reluctance of wealthy consumers to make even small sacrifices. 
>
> Even so, greater anxieties arise from those geoengineering technologies 
> designed to intervene in the functioning of the earth system as a whole. 
> They include ocean iron fertilization and sulfate aerosol spraying, each of 
> which now has a scientific-commercial constituency. 
>
> How confident can we be, even after research and testing, that the chosen 
> technology will work as planned? After all, ocean fertilization — spreading 
> iron slurry across the seas to persuade them to soak up more carbon dioxide 
> — means changing the chemical composition and biological functioning of the 
> oceans. In the process it will interfere with marine ecosystems and affect 
> cloud formation in ways we barely understand. 
>
> Enveloping the earth with a layer of sulfate particles would cool the 
> planet by regulating the amount of solar radiation reaching the earth’s 
> surface. One group of scientists is urging its deployment over the melting 
> Arctic now. 
>
> Plant life, already trying to adapt to a changing climate, would have to 
> deal with reduced sunlight, the basis of photosynthesis. A solar filter 
> made of sulfate particles may be effective at cooling the globe, but its 
> impact on weather systems, including the Indian monsoon on which a billion 
> people depend for their sustenance, is unclear. 
>
> Some of these uncertainties can be reduced by research. Yet if there is 
> one lesson we have learned from ecology, it is that the more closely we 
> look at an ecosystem the more complex it becomes. Now we are contemplating 
> technologies that would attempt to manipulate the grandest and most complex 
> ecosystem of them all — the planet itself. Sulfate aerosol spraying would 
> change not just the temperature but the ozone layer, global rainfall 
> patterns and the biosphere, too. 
>
> Spraying sulfate particles, the method most likely to be implemented, is 
> classified as a form of “solar radiation management,” an Orwellian term 
> that some of its advocates have sought to reframe as “climate remediation.” 
>
> Yet if the “remedy” were fully deployed to reduce the earth’s temperature, 
> then at least 10 years of global climate observations would be needed to 
> separate out the effects of the solar filter from other causes of climatic 
> variability, according to some scientists. 
>
> If after five years of filtered sunlight a disaster occurred — a drought 
> in India and Pakistan, for example, a possible effect in one of the 
> modeling studies — we would not know whether it was caused by global 
> warming, the solar filter or natural variability. And if India suffered 
> from the effects of global dimming while the United States enjoyed more 
> clement weather, it would matter a great deal which country had its hand on 
> the global thermostat. 
>
> So who would be turning the dial on the earth’s climate? Research is 
> concentrated in the United States, Britain and Germany, though China 
> recently added geoengineering to its research priorities. 
>
> Some geoengineering schemes are sufficiently cheap and uncomplicated to be 
> deployed by any midsize nation, or even a billionaire with a messiah 
> complex. 
>
> We can imagine a situation 30 years hence in which the Chinese Communist 
> Party’s grip on power is threatened by chaotic protests ignited by a 
> devastating drought and famine. If the alternative to losing power were 
> attempting a rapid cooling of the planet through a sulfate aerosol shield, 
> how would it play out? A United States president might publicly condemn the 
> Chinese but privately commit to not shooting down their planes, or to 
> engage in “counter-geoengineering.” 
>
> Little wonder that military strategists are taking a close interest in 
> geoengineering. Anxious about Western geopolitical hubris, developing 
> nations have begun to argue for a moratorium on experiments until there is 
> agreement on some kind of global governance system. 
>
> Engineering the climate is intuitively appealing to a powerful strand of 
> Western technological thought that sees no ethical or other obstacle to 
> total domination of nature. And that is why some conservative think tanks 
> that have for years denied or downplayed the science of climate change 
> suddenly support geoengineering, the solution to a problem they once said 
> did not exist. 
>
> All of which points to perhaps the greatest risk of research into 
> geoengineering — it will erode the incentive to curb emissions. Think about 
> it: no need to take on powerful fossil-fuel companies, no need to tax 
> gasoline or electricity, no need to change our lifestyles. 
>
> In the end, how we think about geoengineering depends on how we understand 
> climate disruption. If our failure to cut emissions is a result of the 
> power of corporate interests, the fetish for economic growth and the 
> comfortable conservatism of a consumer society, then resorting to climate 
> engineering allows us to avoid facing up to social dysfunction, at least 
> for as long as it works. 
>
> So the battle lines are being drawn over the future of the planet. While 
> the Pentagon “weaponeer” and geoengineering enthusiast Lowell Wood, an 
> astrophysicist, has proclaimed, “We’ve engineered every other environment 
> we live in — why not the planet?” a more humble climate scientist, Ronald 
> G. Prinn <http://web.mit.edu/rprinn/> of the Massachusetts Institute of 
> Technology, has asked, “How can you engineer a system you don’t 
> understand?” 
>  
> Clive Hamilton <http://www.cappe.edu.au/staff/clive-hamilton.htm>, a 
> professor of public ethics at Charles Sturt University, is the 
> author<http://yalepress.yale.edu/book.asp?isbn=9780300186673>, 
> most recently, of “Earthmasters: The Dawn of the Age of Climate 
> Engineering.” 
>  
> -- 
> Alan Robock
>
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