Ken, you are incorrect. Bill Gates not only funds the Silver Lining project, but also included you, John Latham, and Stephen Salter in his hurricane protection patent application (United States Patent Application 20090177569 | Water alteration structure risk management or ecological alteration management systems and methods | Link<http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0177569.html> .)
This occurred just prior to the Hearing before the 2009 US Senate: “The (proposed) National Hurricane Research Initiative Act of 2009<http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-111shrg54496/pdf/CHRG-111shrg54496.pdf>will create a coordinated Federal hurricane research program” Finally, we have Weakening of hurricanes via marine cloud brightening (MCB)* *Link<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/geoengineering/GfMt-0jXzDY> . The link between geoengineering, hurricane mitigation, and the Silver Lining boats is undeniable. Andrew please ensure this is posted as rebuttal to Ken's incorrect claims. Ken, will you explain your role in this hurricane protection patent application? Supporting evidence below: The following information is available here: *Climate Engineering Exposed* http://terraforminginc.com/climate-engineering-exposed/index.html under the article: *Climate Engineering Programs* http://rezn8d.net/2013/04/14/climate-engineering-programs/ The Silver Lining Project: - We all want to change the world | Link<http://www.economist.com/node/15814427?story_id=15814427> *A team of scientists and engineers that calls itself Silver Lining is working on this idea, with some of its research paid for with money from Bill Gates.* - The Silver Lining Project – funded by *Bill Gates* | Link<http://web.archive.org/web/20100514105840/http://silverliningproj.org/collaborators.html> This research is currently undertaken by distinguished scientists and engineers at: Manchester University, Leeds University, NCAR, Pacific Northwest National Labs, Purdue University, University of Washington and the University of Edinburgh. Silver Lining Project One Market Street, Suite 3500 San Francisco, California 94105 phone: +1 (415) 681-8000 fax: +1 (415) 651-8932 Email: [email protected] - *Weakening of hurricanes via marine cloud brightening (MCB) *| Link<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/geoengineering/GfMt-0jXzDY> - Stephen Salter talks about Pros/Cons of Silver Lining method | Link<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/geoengineering/9pEK5_Np16E/oUuIoXwnpzEJ> - Billionaire Bill Gates Chucks Cash at Climate Cooling Cloud Creator | Link<http://www.handsoffmotherearth.org/2010/05/bill-gates-funds-field-trial-global-coalition-urges-immediate-halt-to-geoengineering/> - Can whiter clouds reduce global warming? | Link<http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/research/2010-06-10-cloud-whitening_N.htm> - Cloud-making ships | Link<http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/climate-weather/photos/9-not-so-crazy-ideas-to-combat-climate-change/cloud-making-ship> - Bill Gates’ cloud-whitening trials ‘a dangerous experiment’ | Link<http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/14/bill-gates-cloud-whitening-dangerous> - Bill Gates funds cloud factory | Link<http://web.archive.org/web/20100828144930/http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/42/bill-gates-funds-cloud-factory.html> - AEROSOL-CLOUD-PRECIPITATION INTERACTIONS WITH CONTROLLED SEAWATER SPRAY | VIDEO LINK <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC22nUwDTQw> - USING CLOUD-SEEDING GEOENGINEERING TO SOLVE GLOBAL WARMING | VIDEO LINK<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg7J8P-uXqM> Bill Gates | Geoengineer in Chief - Bill Gates: Geoengineering the Planet | TED Talk | Video Link<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opjpZTzKIWs> - Bill Gates, the Hurricane Tamer? | Link<http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Science/story?id=8055781&page=1#.UL7SMoPAd8E> - Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes | Link<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1566898/Scientists-a-step-closer-to-steering-hurricanes.html> It’s the ultimate man vs. nature face-off. Bill Gates, one of the most powerful men on the planet, appears to be taking on one of Mother Earth’s most fearsome forces: the hurricane. - The man who would stop hurricanes with car tyres | Link<http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/nov/04/stephen-salter-tyre-hurricane-sandy> British scientist *Stephen Salter* and *Bill Gates* patent scheme to prevent huge storms [image: Hurricane-Mitigation-using-Cloud-Seeding]<http://r3zn8d.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/hurricane-mitigation-using-cloud-seeding.gif> - Weakening of hurricanes via marine cloud brightening (MCB) – Silver Lining Project<http://terraforminginc.com/geoengineering-projects-experiments/weakening-of-hurricanes-via-marine-cloud-brightening-mcb-silver-lining-project/> | Link<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/geoengineering/GfMt-0jXzDY> - Geoengineering: Testing the Waters | Link<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/opinion/sunday/geoengineering-testing-the-waters.html> Bill Gates has funneled millions of dollars into geoengineering research. And he has invested in a company, Intellectual Ventures, that is developing at least two geoengineering tools: the “StratoShield,” a 19-mile-long hose suspended by helium balloons that would spew sun-blocking sulfur dioxide particles into the sky and *a tool that can supposedly blunt the force of hurricanes*. - *HURRICANE PROTECTION FOR INVESTORS** USING SEA-PUMPS* United States Patent Application 20090177569 | Water alteration structure risk management or ecological alteration management systems and methods | Link <http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0177569.html> Bowers, Jeffrey A. (Kirkland, WA, US) *Caldeira, Kenneth G. (Campbell, CA, US)* Chan, Alistair K. (Stillwater, MN, US) *Gates III, William H. (Redmond, WA, US)* Hyde, Roderick A. (Redmond, WA, US) Ishikawa, Muriel Y. (Livermore, CA, US) Kare, Jordin T. (Seattle, WA, US) *Latham, John (Boulder, CO, US)* Myhrvold, Nathan P. (Medina, WA, US) *Salter, Stephen H. (Edinburgh, GB)* Tegreene, Clarence T. (Bellevue, WA, US) Wood Jr., Lowell L. (Bellevue, WA, US) [image: US-Patent-App-20090177569-storm-protection1]<http://r3zn8d.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/us-patent-app-20090177569-storm-protection1.png> REDUCING HURRICANE INTENSITY USING ARRAYS OF ATMOCEAN INC.’S<http://www.atmocean.com/>WAVE-DRIVENUPWELLING PUMPS | VIDEO LINK <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlnR_GMNIGA> Jim Lee http://climateviewer.com/ On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:51:28 PM UTC-4, Ken Caldeira wrote: > > David, > > I don't think that Silver Lining ever had any investors. I don't think it > ever was an entity with any kind of legal existence. "Silver Linings" is > just a name for an informal group of friends and collaborators. > > This article seems to have a fairly accurate description ( > http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Looking-to-sky-to-fight-climate-change-4170475.php > ): > > Since retiring, Neukermans has dedicated his time and money to a series of > social and environmental causes, including efforts to develop > land-mine-detection technology and inexpensive prostheses for the poor. > > He turned his attention to cloud brightening in early 2010, recruiting a > team made up mostly of former colleagues, after the Bill > Gates<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=science&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Bill+Gates%22> > -supported Fund for Innovative > Climate<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=science&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Fund+for+Innovative+Climate%22> > and > Energy Research provided money for an initial viability test. > > > "He more or less showed it was feasible to my satisfaction," said Ken > Caldeira<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=science&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Ken+Caldeira%22>, > > a prominent climate scientist at the Carnegie Institution on the > Stanford<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=science&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Carnegie+Institution+on+the+Stanford%22> > campus > and co-manager of the fund. > > > As the group attempts to develop an actual prototype, Neukermans is > covering the expenses out of his own pocket - and the group is working > pro bono. > > > The five-man team is an esteemed contingent of Silicon Valley's old guard. > Most are in their 60s or 70s; they have playfully referred to themselves as > the "Silver Linings." > > > But they're engineering heavyweights, boasting 250 years of experience and > 130 patents among them. They include Lee > Galbraith<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=science&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Lee+Galbraith%22>, > > inventor of a breakthrough tool for inspecting semiconductors, and Jack > Foster<http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=science&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Jack+Foster%22>, > > a laser pioneer who helped create the first > > This is what I mean by "truthiness". John Latham and others were making > claims about the ability to do marine cloud brightening, but many thought > that it would be impossible to make a fine enough spray. David Keith and I > chose to fund Armond Neukermans to try to demonstrate the feasibility of > such a fine salt water mist in the lab (which I had thought impossible). > > We specified that while we were giving Armond some money, we would have no > financial interest in his outcomes. There was no investment. There was a > grant, which is essentially a gift. > > When Armond demonstrated that he could make a fine spray, we cut off his > funding. He was a victim of his own success. > > We were interested in a feasibility test. When he showed it was feasible, > that was the end of his funding. We were specifically not interested in > funding development of deployment hardware. We were also specific in not > wanting Armond to test anything outdoors, despite that it was just a > salt-water spray. > > Rather than making money, Armond has sunk his own time and money into the > project. > > So, a grant that David Keith and I chose to give a grant to Armond > Neukermans for an indoor feasibility test, where we specifically stated > that we wanted no financial interest in the outcome, becomes an > "investment" by Bill Gates, and the implication that he is trying to profit > even if it means damaging the global environment. This is the sort of > "truthiness" to which I refer. > > Best, > > Ken > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:17 PM, David Appell > <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Ken Caldeira wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately, Clive does himself and the broader discussion a >>> disservice by promulgating an abundance of misinformation. >>> >>> Just grabbing the first thing I could find on the web, he claimed that >>> Bill Gates is an investor in Silver Lining, which is patently untrue. 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