There are some differences of perspective that might limit the membership of such a society. There are those who are already convinced that GE (or a particular form of it) is a necessity and those that are convinced that GE research is a necessity. Then there are those who are concerned with a robust flexible and innovative response to climate change but do not wish to be pigeonholed as members of a geoengineering professional society. I
--- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:06 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > In contrast I have been involved in IEEE (while also maintaining a serious > R&D job outside IEEE ) since ~1960 having run conferences, served on > publication committees, founded and served as an assistant editor on 2 > publications, and founded and run one IEEE society, served on the IEEE > awards committee, founded one major award, etc. so excuse me if I have a > hangup concerning the value of professional organizations. Although this > geoengineering group activity serves a valuable purpose I firmly believe it > would be far more effective if it were a recognized society as I described > below. Discussions would include effectiveness of a particular technique > but while slams against geoengineering R&D as an activity would still occur > they would be laughable. In my opinion individuals or small groups getting > funding for experiments would be more successful. I doubt this group with a > narrow administrative base although a serious following through e-mail has > the credibility of an ongoing society. I think a society would more > effectively achieve the admirable objectives set out below. Geoengineering > is important, will be critical and deserves a credible support organization > to improve the investment prospects. > > -gene > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Andrew Lockley" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Eugene I. Gordon" <[email protected]> > *Cc: *"geoengineering" <[email protected]>, "Oliver > Tickell" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Friday, June 7, 2013 10:00:16 PM > *Subject: *Re: [geo] Money > > > My take on additional funding is that private money could be beneficial in > 3 key ways, which the state may be slow or reluctant to fund. > > 1) A kitty for funding ad hoc costs, such as conference fees, open access > charges , etc. This will allow the removal of minor but annoying road > blocks. > £50k-£500k > > 2) Extra bodies and more computer time for key labs, to enable them to > publish faster > £200k-2M > (more fundable by state than 1&3) > > 3) Serious investment in outdoor experiments, and engineering development > of deployment systems > £500k-100M > > I have no experience of funding bodies, so I'd welcome comments on the > above. > > A > On Jun 6, 2013 9:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A: >> If there is any money available use it to form a geoengineering society >> to which members belong and pay dues, receive a publication with peer >> reviewed papers on geoengineering technology and experiments, and can >> attend an annual meeting; which society is managed and run for all the >> members and for the benefit of geoengineering. It should not undermine the >> science/technology by putting limits on what opinions people can express >> given they are within proper bounds. Members should be responsible for >> generating their own proposals and getting grant funding. If money is given >> to the group and then dispensed it is not likely to get truth in >> advertising and a small group gets too much power. >> >> This can be done for a few million dollars annually. I speak from >> personal experience having done exactly this years back in what is >> currently a group that is part of IEEE. >> >> -gene >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Oliver Tickell" <[email protected]> >> *Cc: *"geoengineering" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:26:18 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [geo] Money >> >> There has been sod all funding for studies of accelerated rock >> weathering. Some work has been done, on farmland in Holland for example, >> but to get this wiely accepted it's important to know how fast ground >> olivine weathers in different grain sizes, on land, on coast, different >> climates, effects on rivers draining olivined catchments, effects on >> marine biota from washout of Fe (if any) / H4SiO4, usefulness as >> fertiliser to restore Mg where lacking in soils, etc etc. >> >> All of which really should be done before any large scale deployment. >> Oliver. >> >> On 05/06/2013 10:58, Andrew Lockley wrote: >> > >> > Where do people think extra money is needed to further the study of >> > geoengineering? >> > >> > A >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "geoengineering" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an email to [email protected]. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en >> . >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "geoengineering" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "geoengineering" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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