So much for transparency? Will geoengineering become "national security" and thus hidden under "classified" stamps?
Has any member of this group been approached by the CIA or NAS, or are you "not at liberty to say" I have been hopeful that this community would embrace open discussion, and sincerely hope that whatever comes of this study remains open to the public. This is mentioned here as well - http://dels.nas.edu/Study-In-Progress/Geoengineering-Technical-Evaluation-Selected-Approaches/DELS-BASC-12-04 - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/CpJCKKGRBJE - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/alL4E2sWvZ8 - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/kbciEyb1IwM - http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/cia-geoengineering-control-climate-change - http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/07/17-3 - http://www8.nationalacademies.org/cp/meetingview.aspx?MeetingId=6748 Project Title: Geoengineering Climate: Technical Evaluation and Discussion of Impacts PIN: DELS-BASC-12-04 Major Unit: Division of Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education <http://www7.nationalacademies.org/dbasse>Division on Earth and Life Studies<http://dels.nas.edu/> Sub Unit: Board on Environmental Change and Society <http://sites.nationalacademies.org/dbasse/becs>Ocean Studies Board <http://dels.nas.edu/osb>Board on Atmospheric Sciences & Climate<http://www7.nationalacademies.org/basc> RSO: Dunlea, Edward Subject/Focus Area: Earth Sciences; Engineering and Technology *Geoengineering Climate: Technical Evaluation and Discussion of Impacts *July 16, 2013 - July 17, 2013 National Academy of Sciences Building 2100 C St. NW Washington D.C. *If you would like to attend the sessions of this meeting that are open **to the public or need more information please contact:* Contact Name: Shelly Freeland Email: [email protected] Phone: 202-334-2649 Fax: 202-334-3825 Agenda: July 16, 2013 National Academy of Sciences Building 2101 Constitution Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20418 Room 125 OPEN SESSION 1:30 pm Discussion – Focus of the Study Goals for discussion: - More clearly understand perspectives of report sponsors – what are the most important issues to be covered in the report? - Explore nuances of committee’s task – what should be included in report? 1:30 PM Welcome Marcia McNutt, Committee Chair 1:40 PM NOAA perspective Rick Rosen and Dian Seidel, NOAA 1:50 PM NASA perspective David Considine, NASA 2:00 PM Open discussion Committee and Guests 3:00 PM Break 3:15 PM Discussion – Perspectives from the Community Goals for discussion: - Hear from community – what issues are important to other communities (e.g., scientific community, policy community, etc.)? - Explore committee’s task – how can report be of use to a broader community? 3:15 PM Jane Long, Bipartisan Policy Center Task Force on Geoengineering (via telecon) 3:45 PM Robert Socolow, Princeton University 4:15 PM Thomas Karl USGCRP and Thomas Armstrong OSTP/USGCRP (via telecon) 4:45 PM Open discussion 5:30 PM Open session ends RSVP is required to attend this meeting. Jim Lee http://terraforminginc.com/ http://climateviewer.com/ On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:47:00 PM UTC-4, andrewjlockley wrote: > > http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3611166 > > CIA Backs $630,000 Study Into How To Control The Weather > > Huffington Post UK > > Jul 17, 2013 > The US Central Intelligence Agency is reportedly funding a study into how > to control the weather.That's right, being able to learn to control the > governments and foreign operatives of the rest of the world isn't quite > enough - the CIA also wants to manipulate their climates.Well, sort of. > What the CIA is actually doing is funding part of a $630,000, 21-month > study into the science of modifying the climate, known as > geo-engineering.Langley is interested in both solar radiation management > (SRM) and carbon dioxide removal (CDR) techniques.The former involves > sending material into the atmosphere in an attempt to block infrared > radiation and so halt rising temperatures - possibly permanently. The > latter is just what it sounds like - learning to remove massive amounts of > carbon dioxide from air, in order to limit the effects of climate > change.Reported by Mother Jones, the study intends to learn and describe > "what is known about the viability for implementation of the proposed > techniques including technological and cost considerations".It goes on:"The > study will also discuss historical examples of related technologies (e.g., > cloud seeding and other weather modification) for lessons that might be > learned about societal reactions, examine what international agreements > exist which may be relevant to the experimental testing or deployment of > geoengineering technologies, and briefly explore potential societal and > ethical considerations related to geoengineering.This study is intended to > provide a careful, clear scientific foundation that informs ethical, legal, > and political discussions surrounding geoengineering."As pointed out by the > Verge, however, this isn't quite the first time that the CIA has attempted > to get involved in the weather. Examples from the past include trying to > start (maybe) rain storms during the Vietnam War to turn trails into > impassable bogs, and experiments (possibly) to control hurricanes with > silver iodine.And they're not alone - China reportedly also tried to seed > the clouds in advance of the 2008 Olympics to control the weather during > the opening ceremony.Speaking to Mother Jones, a CIA spokesman did not > confirm their investment in the study but said:"It's natural that on a > subject like climate change the Agency would work with scientists to better > understand the phenomenon and its implications on national security." > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. 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