The information appears to indicate that the study is being undertaken by the Board of Atmospheric Sciences and Climate of the National Research Council/National Academy of Sciences. So, this is a public study and members of panel have been announced, etc. and will all be as transparent as Academy studies are. See http://dels.nas.edu/Study-In-Progress/Geoengineering-Technical-Evaluation-Se lected-Approaches/DELS-BASC-12-04?bname=basc
So, no reason to think anything nefarious is going on. Mike On 7/17/13 2:58 PM, "Jim Lee" <[email protected]> wrote: > So much for transparency? > > Will geoengineering become "national security" and thus hidden under > "classified" stamps? > > Has any member of this group been approached by the CIA or NAS, or are you > "not at liberty to say" > > I have been hopeful that this community would embrace open discussion, and > sincerely hope that whatever comes of this study remains open to the public. > > This is mentioned here as well > > * > http://dels.nas.edu/Study-In-Progress/Geoengineering-Technical-Evaluation-Sele > cted-Approaches/DELS-BASC-12-04 > * > * https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/CpJCKKGRBJE > * > * https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/alL4E2sWvZ8 > * > * https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/kbciEyb1IwM > * > * > http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/cia-geoengineering-control-climate > -change > * > * http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/07/17-3 > * http://www8.nationalacademies.org/cp/meetingview.aspx?MeetingId=6748 >> Project Title: >> Geoengineering Climate: Technical Evaluation and Discussion of Impacts >> PIN: >> DELS-BASC-12-04 >> Major Unit: >> Division of Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education >> <http://www7.nationalacademies.org/dbasse> Division on Earth and Life >> Studies <http://dels.nas.edu/> >> Sub Unit: >> Board on Environmental Change and Society >> <http://sites.nationalacademies.org/dbasse/becs> Ocean Studies Board >> <http://dels.nas.edu/osb> Board on Atmospheric Sciences & Climate >> <http://www7.nationalacademies.org/basc> >> RSO: >> Dunlea, Edward >> Subject/Focus Area: >> Earth Sciences; Engineering and Technology >> >> Geoengineering Climate: Technical Evaluation and Discussion of Impacts >> July 16, 2013 - July 17, 2013 >> National Academy of Sciences Building >> 2100 C St. NW >> Washington D.C. >> >> If you would like to attend the sessions of this meeting that are open >> to the public or need more information please contact: >> Contact Name: Shelly Freeland >> Email: [email protected] >> Phone: 202-334-2649 >> Fax: 202-334-3825 >> >> Agenda: >> July 16, 2013 >> National Academy of Sciences Building >> 2101 Constitution Avenue, NW >> Washington, DC 20418 >> Room 125 >> OPEN SESSION >> 1:30 pm Discussion Focus of the Study >> Goals for discussion: >> - More clearly understand perspectives of report sponsors what are the most >> important issues to be covered in the report? >> - Explore nuances of committee¹s task what should be included in report? >> 1:30 PM Welcome Marcia McNutt, Committee Chair >> 1:40 PM NOAA perspective Rick Rosen and Dian Seidel, NOAA >> 1:50 PM NASA perspective David Considine, NASA >> 2:00 PM Open discussion Committee and Guests >> 3:00 PM Break >> 3:15 PM Discussion Perspectives from the Community >> Goals for discussion: >> - Hear from community what issues are important to other communities (e.g., >> scientific community, policy community, etc.)? >> - Explore committee¹s task how can report be of use to a broader community? >> 3:15 PM Jane Long, Bipartisan Policy Center Task Force on Geoengineering (via >> telecon) >> 3:45 PM Robert Socolow, Princeton University >> 4:15 PM Thomas Karl USGCRP and Thomas Armstrong OSTP/USGCRP (via telecon) >> 4:45 PM Open discussion >> 5:30 PM Open session ends >> RSVP is required to attend this meeting. > > > Jim Lee > http://terraforminginc.com/ > http://climateviewer.com/ > > On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:47:00 PM UTC-4, andrewjlockley wrote: >> http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3611166 >> >> CIA Backs $630,000 Study Into How To Control The Weather >> >> Huffington Post UK >> >> Jul 17, 2013 >> The US Central Intelligence Agency is reportedly funding a study into how to >> control the weather.That's right, being able to learn to control the >> governments and foreign operatives of the rest of the world isn't quite >> enough - the CIA also wants to manipulate their climates.Well, sort of. What >> the CIA is actually doing is funding part of a $630,000, 21-month study into >> the science of modifying the climate, known as geo-engineering.Langley is >> interested in both solar radiation management (SRM) and carbon dioxide >> removal (CDR) techniques.The former involves sending material into the >> atmosphere in an attempt to block infrared radiation and so halt rising >> temperatures - possibly permanently. The latter is just what it sounds like - >> learning to remove massive amounts of carbon dioxide from air, in order to >> limit the effects of climate change.Reported by Mother Jones, the study >> intends to learn and describe "what is known about the viability for >> implementation of the proposed techniques including technological and cost >> considerations".It goes on:"The study will also discuss historical examples >> of related technologies (e.g., cloud seeding and other weather modification) >> for lessons that might be learned about societal reactions, examine what >> international agreements exist which may be relevant to the experimental >> testing or deployment of geoengineering technologies, and briefly explore >> potential societal and ethical considerations related to geoengineering.This >> study is intended to provide a careful, clear scientific foundation that >> informs ethical, legal, and political discussions surrounding >> geoengineering."As pointed out by the Verge, however, this isn't quite the >> first time that the CIA has attempted to get involved in the weather. >> Examples from the past include trying to start (maybe) rain storms during the >> Vietnam War to turn trails into impassable bogs, and experiments (possibly) >> to control hurricanes with silver iodine.And they're not alone - China >> reportedly also tried to seed the clouds in advance of the 2008 Olympics to >> control the weather during the opening ceremony.Speaking to Mother Jones, a >> CIA spokesman did not confirm their investment in the study but said:"It's >> natural that on a subject like climate change the Agency would work with >> scientists to better understand the phenomenon and its implications on >> national security." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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