The media reports seem rather sensationalistic, as if the CIA were to be using weather control for some kind of weapon. Really it's just part of their normal geopolitical analysis. They have been engaged for a while, and had a "Center on Climate Change and National Security ", which was only open from 2009 to 2012. The original press release explains the reasons for CIA involvement in this type of research:
https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statements/center-on-climate-change-and-national-security.html CIA Opens Center on Climate Change and National Security *September 25, 2009* ------------------------------ The Central Intelligence Agency is launching The Center on Climate Change and National Security as the focal point for its work on the subject. The Center is a small unit led by senior specialists from the Directorate of Intelligence and the Directorate of Science and Technology. Its charter is not the science of climate change, but the national security impact of phenomena such as desertification, rising sea levels, population shifts, and heightened competition for natural resources. The Center will provide support to American policymakers as they negotiate, implement, and verify international agreements on environmental issues. That is something the CIA has done for years. “Decision makers need information and analysis on the effects climate change can have on security. The CIA is well positioned to deliver that intelligence,” said Director Leon Panetta. The Center will assume responsibility for coordinating with Intelligence Community partners on the review and declassification of imagery and other data that could be of use to scientists in their own climate-related research. This effort draws on imagery and other information that is collected in any event, assisting the US scientific community without a large commitment of resources. The new Center does more than bring together in a single place expertise on an important national security topic—the effect environmental factors can have on political, economic, and social stability overseas. It will also be aggressive in outreach to academics and think tanks working the issue. The goal is a powerful asset recognized throughout our government, and beyond, for its knowledge and insight. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Jim Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > So much for transparency? > > Will geoengineering become "national security" and thus hidden under > "classified" stamps? > > Has any member of this group been approached by the CIA or NAS, or are you > "not at liberty to say" > > I have been hopeful that this community would embrace open discussion, and > sincerely hope that whatever comes of this study remains open to the public. > > This is mentioned here as well > > > - > > http://dels.nas.edu/Study-In-Progress/Geoengineering-Technical-Evaluation-Selected-Approaches/DELS-BASC-12-04 > - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/CpJCKKGRBJE > - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/alL4E2sWvZ8 > - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geoengineering/kbciEyb1IwM > - > > http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/cia-geoengineering-control-climate-change > - http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/07/17-3 > - http://www8.nationalacademies.org/cp/meetingview.aspx?MeetingId=6748 > > Project Title: > > Geoengineering Climate: Technical Evaluation and Discussion of Impacts > > PIN: > > DELS-BASC-12-04 > > Major Unit: > > Division of Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education > <http://www7.nationalacademies.org/dbasse>Division on Earth and Life > Studies <http://dels.nas.edu/> > > Sub Unit: > > Board on Environmental Change and Society > <http://sites.nationalacademies.org/dbasse/becs>Ocean Studies Board > <http://dels.nas.edu/osb>Board on Atmospheric Sciences & > Climate<http://www7.nationalacademies.org/basc> > > RSO: > > Dunlea, Edward > > Subject/Focus Area: > > Earth Sciences; Engineering and Technology > > > *Geoengineering Climate: Technical Evaluation and Discussion of Impacts > *July 16, 2013 - July 17, 2013 > National Academy of Sciences Building > 2100 C St. NW > Washington D.C. > > > *If you would like to attend the sessions of this meeting that are open > **to the public or need more information please contact:* > > Contact Name: Shelly Freeland > > Email: [email protected] > > Phone: 202-334-2649 > > Fax: 202-334-3825 > > > Agenda: > July 16, 2013 > National Academy of Sciences Building > 2101 Constitution Avenue, NW > Washington, DC 20418 > Room 125 > OPEN SESSION > 1:30 pm Discussion – Focus of the Study > Goals for discussion: > - More clearly understand perspectives of report sponsors – what are the > most important issues to be covered in the report? > - Explore nuances of committee’s task – what should be included in report? > 1:30 PM Welcome Marcia McNutt, Committee Chair > 1:40 PM NOAA perspective Rick Rosen and Dian Seidel, NOAA > 1:50 PM NASA perspective David Considine, NASA > 2:00 PM Open discussion Committee and Guests > 3:00 PM Break > 3:15 PM Discussion – Perspectives from the Community > Goals for discussion: > - Hear from community – what issues are important to other communities > (e.g., scientific community, policy community, etc.)? > - Explore committee’s task – how can report be of use to a broader > community? > 3:15 PM Jane Long, Bipartisan Policy Center Task Force on Geoengineering > (via telecon) > 3:45 PM Robert Socolow, Princeton University > 4:15 PM Thomas Karl USGCRP and Thomas Armstrong OSTP/USGCRP (via telecon) > 4:45 PM Open discussion > 5:30 PM Open session ends > RSVP is required to attend this meeting. > > > > Jim Lee > http://terraforminginc.com/ > http://climateviewer.com/ > > > On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:47:00 PM UTC-4, andrewjlockley wrote: >> >> http://m.huffpost.com/uk/**entry/3611166<http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3611166> >> >> CIA Backs $630,000 Study Into How To Control The Weather >> >> Huffington Post UK >> >> Jul 17, 2013 >> The US Central Intelligence Agency is reportedly funding a study into how >> to control the weather.That's right, being able to learn to control the >> governments and foreign operatives of the rest of the world isn't quite >> enough - the CIA also wants to manipulate their climates.Well, sort of. >> What the CIA is actually doing is funding part of a $630,000, 21-month >> study into the science of modifying the climate, known as >> geo-engineering.Langley is interested in both solar radiation management >> (SRM) and carbon dioxide removal (CDR) techniques.The former involves >> sending material into the atmosphere in an attempt to block infrared >> radiation and so halt rising temperatures - possibly permanently. The >> latter is just what it sounds like - learning to remove massive amounts of >> carbon dioxide from air, in order to limit the effects of climate >> change.Reported by Mother Jones, the study intends to learn and describe >> "what is known about the viability for implementation of the proposed >> techniques including technological and cost considerations".It goes on:"The >> study will also discuss historical examples of related technologies (e.g., >> cloud seeding and other weather modification) for lessons that might be >> learned about societal reactions, examine what international agreements >> exist which may be relevant to the experimental testing or deployment of >> geoengineering technologies, and briefly explore potential societal and >> ethical considerations related to geoengineering.This study is intended to >> provide a careful, clear scientific foundation that informs ethical, legal, >> and political discussions surrounding geoengineering."As pointed out by the >> Verge, however, this isn't quite the first time that the CIA has attempted >> to get involved in the weather. Examples from the past include trying to >> start (maybe) rain storms during the Vietnam War to turn trails into >> impassable bogs, and experiments (possibly) to control hurricanes with >> silver iodine.And they're not alone - China reportedly also tried to seed >> the clouds in advance of the 2008 Olympics to control the weather during >> the opening ceremony.Speaking to Mother Jones, a CIA spokesman did not >> confirm their investment in the study but said:"It's natural that on a >> subject like climate change the Agency would work with scientists to better >> understand the phenomenon and its implications on national security." >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. 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