Actually I did read the Seitz article.  I was amazed that Seitz seems proud 
of it.  

Seitz characterized the 1990 views of two well known by now climate science 
deniers, i.e. Roy Spencer and John Christy, as representative of the 1990 
views of most relevant scientists.  I thought this was so far off the mark 
I ventured my guess that Seitz didn't know any climate scientists at the 
time.  

I cited the Toronto Changing Atmosphere conference of 1988 final statement 
to illustrate that the views of many climate scientists of the time were 
not anywhere near what the Seitz article asserts they were.  A copy of the 
statement is* here*.  The Toronto statement was signed off on by, for 
instance, Bert Bolin, John Houghton, Bob Watson, Stephen Schnieder, Mike 
McElroy, Peter Gleick, Zhou Xiuji, Digby McLaren, Kenneth Hare, Jill Jager, 
Godwin Obasi, Robert Socolow, etc.  There were a total of 400 invited 
delegates from 40 countries.  

Read the first two paragraphs of the Toronto statement and consider the 
statement's recommendation for action that the world's policy makers were 
being asked to implement:  a 20% reduction in the 1988 level of global CO2 
emission by the year 2005 as an initial global goal, the aim being 
stabilizing the level of CO2 in the atmosphere which was then thought to 
require a reduction of 50% of the 1988 global emissions.   

The Seitz article summarizes what he thought the views of the relevant 
scientific community were, i.e. "most scientists lack conviction" about 
doing anything.  Its ludicrous.  The rest of the Seitz article, i.e. the 
argument that in essence, most climate scientists of the time didn't have a 
clue, is not standing up as history unfolds, and was not powerful at the 
time.  

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:55:00 PM UTC-7, Russell Seitz wrote:
>
> David 's failure to read the article is evident 

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