How are they not both important‹the condensation releases the heat that
carries the air upward, creating a pressure gradient that pulls the air
ashore?

Mike


On 5/31/15, 10:09 AM, "John Harte" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The work of Makarieva and Gorshkov (note: not Gorshkov and Makarieva; she is
> first author on their papers on this topic) is challenging atmospheric
> scientists not because it points to the huge role of forests in the hydrocycle
> (I have been teaching that for decades) but rather the specific mechanism they
> propose.  Their argument is that it is the pressure difference created by
> condensation, not the heat released by condensation, that is the more
> important driver. Certainly both play a big role; my understanding is that the
> pressure effect was largely ignored in the past.
>  
> John Harte
> Professor of Ecosystem Sciences
> ERG/ESPM
> 310 Barrows Hall
> University of California
> Berkeley, CA 94720  USA
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> On May 30, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Brian Cartwright <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> To the geoengineering group,
>> 
>> I'm curious whether group members are familiar with the "biotic pump" model
>> of Gorshkov and Makarieva; this article gives a quick introduction:
>> 
>> http://news.mongabay.com/2013/0130-hance-physics-biotic-pump.html
>> 
>> A big climate benefit of inland forests is that phase change from
>> evapotranspiration -> condensation creates low-pressure areas that pull in
>> moisture and create healthy weather circulation. Seems to me that widespread
>> deforestation is aggravating stalled hot-weather trends by blocking this kind
>> of circulation. The leaf area of a mature forest offers considerably more
>> surface area for evaporation than the same area of open water on ocean or
>> inland lake.
>> 
>> Brian Cartwright

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