Hi Folks,

Regretfully, the authors have relegated the use of the word Geoengineering 
to simply include SRM concepts. However, to their collective credit, they 
do explain that they purposefully picked the easiest concept to model.

With that said, their efforts at viewing the challenge(s) from a 
multi-latitudinal perspective is a refreshing break from the belief that 
attaining a reduction in the 'Average Global Temperature' is some sort of 
gold standard in Geoengineering.  

Creating an* equitable climate 
<http://www.seas.harvard.edu/climate/eli/research/equable/climate.html>* 
(a.k.a. 
an averaged out climate) must be avoided at all costs 
<https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=equable%20climate%20problem>
 
and stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI), using sulfuric acid (H2SO4) or 
other sulfur compounds, can lead to the formation of Polar Stratospheric 
Clouds (PSC) and thus warming of the polar regions (a 
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17745351>)(b 
<http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/3/987/2003/acp-3-987-2003.pdf>)(c 
<https://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley/news/factsheets/Aerosols.html>)(d 
<http://geotest.tamu.edu/userfiles/231/p19.pdf>)(e 
<http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/91JD02740/abstract>)(f 
<http://www.seas.harvard.edu/environmental-chemistry/publications/97GL03408.pdf>
)(g <http://wind.sjsu.edu/papers/PhysToday.pdf>)(etc.).....while cooling of 
the lower latitudes a.k.a. *an equitable climate*.

The hazards of warming the polar regions through increasing polar 
stratospheric clouds is well covered by *LC Sloan et al.- ‎1998 "*Polar 
stratospheric clouds: A high latitude warming mechanism in an ancient 
greenhouse world 
<ftp://ftp.tudelft.nl/pub/TUDelft/irctr-rse/Mieke/Papers/SloanPollard98-PSCforHighLatPTMwarmArctic.pdf>
"

*Abstract:*

*The presence of water vapor clouds in the stratosphere produces warming in 
excess of tropospheric greenhouse warming, via radiative warming in the 
lower stratosphere. The stratospheric clouds form only in regions of very 
low temperature and so the warming produced by the clouds is concentrated 
in polar winter regions. Results from a paleoclimate modeling study that 
includes idealized, prescribed polar stratospheric clouds (PSCs) show that 
the clouds cause up to 20°C of warming at high latitude surfaces of the 
winter hemisphere, with greatest impact in oceanic regions where sea ice is 
reduced. The modeled temperature response suggests that PSCs may have been 
a significant climate forcing factor for past time intervals associated 
with high concentrations of atmospheric methane. The clouds and associated 
warming may help to explain long-standing discrepancies between 
model-produced paleotemperatures and geologic proxy temperature 
interpretations at high latitudes, a persistent problem in studies of 
ancient greenhouse climates."*.(My highlight)

<http://eeclat.ipsl.jussieu.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/t4_PSC.png>

<https://pubweb.bnl.gov/~xujun/99post/strato_freezing.gif>

<http://www.thetruthdenied.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/stratospheric-chemistry.jpg>

<http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v3/n12/images/ngeo989-f2.jpg>


(*Side note:* To keep things simple, I'm leaving the ozone destruction 
potential of the PSC/H2SO4 combination off the table for now and simply ask 
the reader to focus upon the *thermal* issues presented by SAI.) 

Hopefully, the *Kravitz et al*. work will give us a detailed way to predict 
*simply 
the thermal hazards of SAI.* With equal hope, once the hazards of SAI 
induced polar warming (as well as the hazard to ozone) is well repeated in 
both peer reviewed papers and popular press, the highly productive and 
appropriate *'Other'* form of Geoengineering, which I believe is called 
Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR), can gain footing in the debate.

Regrettably, expanding the Kravitz model to cover more complex concepts, 
other than the simplistic SAI concept, will not be easy. The authors 
clearly point out in their '*Discussion and Conclusion'* section that* 
"Understanding the boundaries of what is achievable, as well as what robust 
conclusions can be obtained about any particular strategy, are open 
questions that require further research*.".

In brief, the work of *Kravits et al*. needs to be expanded upon as it 
would be interesting to see this same detailed analytical tool applied to 
the *other* Geoengineering concepts such as biochar, olivine, advanced 
weathering of limestone and vast scale marine biomass production. Deployed 
individually and or in concert, such efforts can clearly produce a* "[...] 
deliberate large-scale intervention in the Earth’s natural systems to 
counteract climate change.**"* (
http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/what-is-geoengineering/what-is-geoengineering/).

Best,

Michael



On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 4:20:57 PM UTC-7, andrewjlockley wrote:
>
> http://www.earth-syst-dynam-discuss.net/6/1635/2015/esdd-6-1635-2015.html
>
> Geoengineering as a design problem
>
> 08 Sep 2015
> Abstract. Understanding the climate impacts of solar geoengineering is 
> essential for evaluating its benefits and risks. Most previous simulations 
> have prescribed a particular strategy and evaluated its modeled effects. 
> Here we turn this approach around by first choosing example climate 
> objectives and then designing a strategy to meet those objectives in 
> climate models.
>
> There are four essential criteria for designing a strategy: (i) an 
> explicit specification of the objectives, (ii) defining what climate 
> forcing agents to modify so the objectives are met, (iii) a method for 
> managing uncertainties, and (iv) independent verification of the strategy 
> in an evaluation model.
>
> We demonstrate this design perspective through two multi-objective 
> examples. First, changes in Arctic temperature and the position of tropical 
> precipitation due to CO2 increases are offset by adjusting high latitude 
> insolation in each hemisphere independently. Second, three different 
> latitude-dependent patterns of insolation are modified to offset 
> CO2-induced changes in global mean temperature, interhemispheric 
> temperature asymmetry, and the equator-to-pole temperature gradient. In 
> both examples, the "design" and "evaluation" models are state-of-the-art 
> fully coupled atmosphere–ocean general circulation models.
>
> Citation: Kravitz, B., MacMartin, D. G., Wang, H., and Rasch, P. J.: 
> Geoengineering as a design problem, Earth Syst. Dynam. Discuss., 6, 
> 1635-1710, doi:10.5194/esdd-6-1635-2015, 2015.
>

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