Dear Jim

The initial effect of marine cloud brightening is to return sea surface temperatures to the values that they were in the good old days. This is done using only energy from the wind and materials already available in enormous quantity at sea.

We can choose the places and seasons relative to the phase of monsoons to either increase precipitation in dry places or reduce it in wet ones.

We may be able to moderate the bad effects of el Nino.

If we make a mistake we can stop instantly and effects will be forgotten in a few days.

The annual cost of correcting the thermal effects since pre-industrial times is probably below the annual cost of climate conferences.

We can detect effects of spray from a single spray source by averaging satellite photographs and increase spray rates slowly.

Spray at high latitudes around the summer solstice will be particularly effective in retaining Arctic ice.

Lots of work has already been done on the hardware design. You were a bit rude with your Rube Goldberg comment (quite insulting to engineers) and did not reply to my polite email asking you for specific details.

I ask you to imagine that work on marine cloud brightening, which might have saved the Arctic ice, is delayed until the loss has passed a tripping point. This messes up the jet stream even more than it is now with longer drought in California and worse storms on the east Coast. It makes the present migration problem orders of magnitude worse.

The political trigger for the delay in research was something that you wrote and the historians, humanists and policy makers believed.

Stephen

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On 04/02/2016 12:33, Jim Fleming wrote:
Dear All,

I wrote quote #2 in 2006 after attending the NASA-Ames meeting, when the field of geoengineering was in a distinct "technological fix" mode. I was appalled by the tone of the discourse I had just experienced and wanted to alert the community of historians, humanists, and policy makers to the outrageous claims for climate control circulating at the time.

I wrote this as a prelude, a "hook" if you will, to a much longer history of intervention. The community interested in these ideas is much larger and somewhat more diverse now, and I am encouraged to see more humanists making contributions, but still, most every week, I read of rather outrageous notions for "controlling" Earth's climate.

Jim Fleming

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:13 AM, Emily <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi all

    Useful looking list of books.

    2 things jump out:

    1. Lack of mention in the blurbs that IPCC relies upon CDR to have
    a chance of staying below 2degC (noting we need the limit to be
    lower still). Framing CDR as a back up plan, seems unjustifiable,
    as it is critical to the 'plan A' as I read it.

    2. The blurb about 'Fixing the Sky' includes this phrase:
    "...Forget cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, some scientists
    argue. Instead, bounce sunlight back into space..." I wonder
    whether scientists really do say that at all. I don't see this as
    a real reflection of the discorse.

    Given these two thoughts, and the number of books available -
    making it tough to read them all, and my feeling that some of the
    books on offer clearly have an agenda, does anyone have a view
    which of these books gives a fairly balanced discussion, also
    accepting the IPCC view of the need for CDR and one which avoids
    slandering scientists generically?

    Thanks,
    Emily
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    Bookshelf: Engineering the Atmosphere
    By Michael Svoboda on Feb 2, 2016

    This month's compendium of timely books address the multifaceted
    technological, political, social, economic, and ethical issues
    surrounding geoengineering, humanity's 'Plan B' (or X?) for
    combating excessive global warming.

    Geoengineering. For some it’s a prudent insurance policy to
    protect against what-if scenarios if societies’ efforts to combat
    excessive global warming fails to manage what modern societies
    themselves have created. For many others, it’s a last-resort,
    pull-out-all-the-stops Hail Mary pass fraught with its own
    problems and unknowns.

    This month’s climate bookshelf feature is again compiled by
    bibliophile Michael Svoboda of George Washington University, a
    former book-store owner and regular contributor. Descriptions are
    drawn from the publishers’ copy.

    How to Cool the Planet: Geoengineering and the Audacious Quest to
    Fix Earth’s Climate, by Jeff Goodell (Mariner Books, 2010; 276
    pages, $14.95 paperback)

    Climate discussions often focus on potential impacts over a long
    period of time – several decades, a century even. But change could
    also happen much more suddenly. What if we had a real climate
    emergency – how could we cool the planet in a hurry? This question
    has led a group of scientists to pursue extreme solutions: huge
    contraptions that would suck CO2 from the air, machines that
    brighten clouds and deflect sunlight away from the earth, even
    artificial volcanoes that spray heat-reflecting particles into the
    atmosphere. This is the radical and controversial world of
    geoengineering. In How to Cool the Planet, Jeff Goodell explores
    the scientific, political, and moral aspects of geoengineering. .
    . . There are certainly risks, but Goodell persuades us that
    geoengineering may be our last best hope, a Plan B for the
    environment.

    Hack the Planet: Science’s Best Hope – or Worst Nightmare – for
    Averting Climate Catastrophe, by Eli Kintisch (Wiley, 2010; 280
    pages, $25.95)

    Scientists are developing geoengineering techniques for worst-case
    scenarios. . . . [In Hack the Planet, Science magazine reporter]
    Kintisch outlines four: collapsing ice sheets, megadroughts, a
    catastrophic methane release, and slowing of the global ocean
    conveyor belt. As incredible and outlandish as many
    [geoengineering] plans may seem, could they soon become our only
    hope for avoiding calamity? Or will the plans of brilliant and
    well-intentioned scientists cause unforeseeable disasters? And
    does the advent of geoengineering mean that humanity has failed in
    its role as steward of the planet – or taken on a new
    responsibility? Kintisch’s investigation of the [possibilities and
    dangers of geoengineering] is required reading as the debate over
    global warming shifts to whether humanity should Hack the Planet.

    Geo-Engineering Climate Change: Environmental Necessity or
    Pandora’s Box?, Edited by Brian Launder and J. Michael T. Thompson
    (Cambridge University Press, 2010; 332 pages, $69.60 (at Amazon))

    This book is the first to present a detailed and critical
    appraisal of the geo-scale engineering interventions that have
    been proposed as potential measures to counter the devastation of
    run-away global warming. Early chapters set the scene with a
    discussion of projections of future CO2 emissions and techniques
    for predicting climate tipping points. Subsequent chapters then
    review proposals to limit CO2 concentrations through improved
    energy technologies, removal of CO2 from the atmosphere, and
    stimulated uptake by the oceans. Schemes for solar radiation
    management involving the reflection of sunlight back into space
    and using artificially brightened clouds and stratospheric
    aerosols are also assessed. Pros and cons of the various schemes
    are thoroughly examined – throwing light on the passionate public
    debate about their safety.

    Fixing the Sky: The Checkered History of Weather and Climate
    Control, by James Rodger Fleming (Columbia University Press, 2010;
    344 pages, $24.95 paperback)

    As alarm over global warming spreads, a radical idea is gaining
    momentum. Forget cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, some scientists
    argue. Instead, bounce sunlight back into space by pumping
    reflective nanoparticles into the atmosphere. Launch mirrors into
    orbit around the Earth. Make clouds thicker and brighter to create
    a “planetary thermostat.” . . . For more than a century,
    scientists, soldiers, and charlatans have tried to manipulate
    weather and climate, and like them, today’s climate engineers
    wildly exaggerate what is possible. Scarcely considering the
    political, military, and ethical implications of managing the
    world’s climate, these individuals hatch schemes with potential
    consequences that far outweigh anything their predecessors might
    have faced. [In Fixing the Sky], James Rodger Fleming traces the
    tragicomic history of the rainmakers, rain fakers, weather
    warriors, and climate engineers who have been both full of ideas
    and full of themselves. . . . [He] speaks to anyone who has a
    stake in sustaining the planet.

    Climate Change Geoengineering: Philosophical Perspectives, Legal
    Issues, and Governance Frameworks, Edited by Wil C. Burns and
    Andrew L. Strauss (Cambridge University Press, 2013; 328 pages,
    $35.99)

    The international community is not taking the action necessary to
    avert dangerous increases in greenhouse gases. Facing a
    potentially bleak future, the question that confronts humanity is
    whether the best of bad alternatives may be to counter global
    warming through human-engineered climate interventions. In this
    book, eleven prominent authorities on climate change consider the
    legal, policy, and philosophical issues presented by geoengineering.

    Earthmasters: The Dawn of the Age of Climate Engineering, by Clive
    Hamilton (Yale University Press, 2013; 264 pages, $20.00 paperback)

    International efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions have all
    failed, and before the end of the century Earth is projected to be
    warmer than it has been for 15 million years. The question “can
    the crisis be avoided?” has been superseded by a more frightening
    one, “what can be done to prevent the devastation of the living
    world?” . . . [In Earthmasters, Clive Hamilton] lays out the
    arguments for and against climate engineering, and reveals the
    extent of vested interests linking researchers, venture
    capitalists, and corporations. He then examines what it means for
    human beings to be making plans to control the planet’s
    atmosphere, probes the uneasiness we feel with the notion of
    exercising technological mastery over nature, and challenges the
    ways we think about ourselves and our place in the natural world.

    A Case for Climate Engineering, by David Keith (Boston Review
    Books / The MIT Press, 2013; 112 pages, $16.95)

    A leading scientist long concerned about climate change, Keith . .
    . argues that, after decades during which very little progress has
    been made in reducing carbon emissions, we must put [climate
    engineering] on the table and consider it responsibly. That
    doesn’t mean we will deploy it, and it doesn’t mean that we can
    abandon efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. But we must
    understand fully what research needs to be done and how the
    technology might be designed and used. [He] provides a clear and
    accessible overview of what the costs and risks might be, and how
    climate engineering might fit into a larger program for managing
    climate change.

    Engineering the Climate: The Ethics of Solar Radiation Management,
    Edited by Christopher J. Preston (Lexington Books, 2013; 278
    pages, $36.99 paperback)

    Climate engineering (also known as geoengineering) has recently
    experienced a surge of interest given the growing likelihood that
    the global community will fail to limit the temperature increases
    associated with greenhouse gases to safe levels. . . . One
    particular form, solar radiation management (SRM), is known to be
    relatively cheap and capable of bringing down global temperatures
    very rapidly. However, the complexity of the climate system
    creates considerable uncertainty about the precise nature of SRM’s
    effects in different regions. The ethical issues raised by the
    prospect of SRM are both complex and thorny. . . . A sustained and
    scholarly treatment of [these issues] is necessary before it will
    be possible to make fair and just decisions about whether (or how)
    to proceed. This book, including essays by 13 experts in the
    ethics of geoengineering, [begins that process].

    Geoengineering of the Climate System, Edited by R. M. Harrison et
    al (Royal Society of Chemistry, 2014; 270 pp. $108.00 (Amazon))

    Geoengineering of the Climate System presents an overview of the
    technologies currently being considered as large scale solutions
    to climate change, and considers some of the possible benefits and
    disadvantages of each. [With] invited contributions . . . by many
    of the leading experts on these technologies, the volume provides
    a comprehensive overview of both carbon dioxide reduction and
    solar radiation management methods [and then reviews the]
    important ethical and governance issues [to which they give rise].
    Written with active researchers, postgraduate students and
    policy-makers in mind, this latest addition to the Issues in
    Environmental Science & Technology series presents a balanced and
    informed view of this important field of research and is an
    essential addition to any environmental science library.

    Can Science Fix Climate Change: A Case Against Climate
    Engineering, by Mike Hulme (Wiley/Polity, 2014; 144 pages, $12.95)

    Climate change seems to be an insurmountable problem. Political
    solutions have so far had little impact. Some scientists are now
    advocating the so-called “Plan B”, a more direct way of reducing
    the rate of future warming by reflecting more sunlight back to
    space, creating a thermostat in the sky. . . . Drawing upon a
    distinguished career studying the science, politics and ethics of
    climate change, Mike Hulme shows why using science to fix the
    global climate is undesirable, ungovern-able and unattainable.
    Science and technology should instead serve the more pragmatic
    goals of increasing societal resilience to weather risks,
    improving regional air quality and driving forward an energy
    technology transition. Seeking to reset the planet’s thermostat is
    not the answer.

    Climate Intervention: Carbon Dioxide Removal and Reliable
    Sequestration, by Committee on Geoengineering the Climate
    (National Academies Press, 2015; 154 pages, $49.95 paper) A PDF
    for this book can be downloaded for free from this webpage.

    As one of a two-book report, Climate Intervention: Carbon Dioxide
    Removal and Reliable Sequestration introduces possible CDR
    approaches and then discusses them in depth. Land management
    practices, such as low-till agriculture, reforestation and
    afforestation, ocean iron fertilization, and land-and-ocean-based
    accelerated weathering, could amplify the rates of processes that
    are already occurring as part of the natural carbon cycle. Other
    CDR approaches, such as bioenergy with carbon capture and
    sequestration, direct air capture and sequestration, and
    traditional carbon capture and sequestration, seek to capture CO2
    from the atmosphere and dispose of it by pumping it underground at
    high pressure. This book looks at the pros and cons of these
    options and estimates possible rates of removal and total amounts
    that might be removed.

    Climate Intervention: Reflecting Sunlight to Cool Earth, by
    Committee on Geoengineering the Climate (National Academies Press,
    2015; 154 pages, $49.95 paper) A PDF for this book can be
    downloaded for free from this webpage.

    As one of a two-book report, this volume discusses albedo
    modification – changing the fraction of incoming solar radiation
    that reaches the surface. This approach would deliberately modify
    the energy budget of Earth to produce a cooling designed to
    compensate for some of the effects of warming associated with
    greenhouse gas increases. The prospect of large-scale albedo
    modifcation raises political and governance issues at national and
    global levels, as well as ethical concerns. Climate Intervention:
    Reflecting Sunlight to Cool Earth discusses [these issues and
    concerns]. In the spirit of transparency [critical for these
    discussions, this report] was based on peer-reviewed literature
    and the judgments of the authoring committee; no new research was
    done as part of this study and all data and information used are
    from entirely open sources. . . . [Leaders should understand] the
    consequences of albedo modification approaches before they face a
    decision whether or not to use them.

    Experiment Earth: Responsible Innovation in Geoengineering, by
    Jack Stilgoe (Routledge/Earthscan, 2015; 222 pages, $145.00)

    Experiments in geoengineering – intentionally manipulating the
    Earth’s climate to reduce global warming – have become the focus
    of a vital debate about responsible science and innovation.
    Drawing on three years of sociological research working with
    scientists on one of the world’s first major geoengineering
    projects, this book examines the politics of experimentation.
    Geoengineering provides a test case for rethinking the
    responsibilities of scientists and asking how science can take
    better care of the futures that it helps bring about. This book
    gives students, researchers and the general reader interested in
    the place of science in contemporary society a compelling
    framework for future thinking and discussion.

    The Planet Remade: How Geoengineering Could Change the World, by
    Oliver Morton (Princeton University Press, 2015; 440 pages, $29.95)

    The Planet Remade explores the history, politics, and cutting-edge
    science of geoengineering. Morton weighs both the promise and
    perils of these controversial strategies and puts them in the
    broadest possible context. The past century’s changes to the
    planet – to the clouds and the soils, to the winds and the seas,
    to the great cycles of nitrogen and carbon – have been far more
    profound than most of us realize. Appreciating those changes
    clarifies not just the scale of what needs to be done about global
    warming, but also our relationship to nature. . . . [Morton]
    addresses the deep fear that comes with seeing humans as a force
    of nature, and asks what it might mean . . . to try and use that
    force . . . to meet the challenge of climate change.

    Systems Thinking for Geoengineering Policy: How to Reduce the
    Threat of Dangerous Climate Change by Embracing Uncertainty and
    Failure, by Robert Chris (Routledge / Earthscan, 2015; 212 pages,
    $145.00)

    Systems Thinking for Geoengineering Policy is the first book to
    [discuss] geoengineering in terms of complex adaptive systems
    theory and to argue for the theoretical imperative of adaptive
    management . . . for confronting the inescapable uncertainty and
    surprise that characterize potential climate futures. The book
    illustrates how a shift from the conventional Enlightenment
    paradigm of linear reductionist thinking, in favor of systems
    thinking, would promote robust policies [for] the widest range of
    plausible futures . . . and could also unlock the policy paralysis
    caused by making [agreement on] long term predictions a prior
    condition for policy formulation. It also offers some
    systems-driven reflections on a global governance network for
    geoengineering.

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