Without trying to be ad hominem, I must say that based on all of Lomborg’s publications and talks that I am familiar with, he needs to be viewed as a provocateur, rather than a serious contributor to effective policy.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gernot Wagner <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 3:11 PM To: Peter Frumhoff <[email protected]> Cc: Alan Robock <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, geoengineering <[email protected]>, Stephen Salter <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn Agreed -- on the continued disagreement with Lomborg, that is. His framing as "Plan B" is precisely the kind of framing we need to get away from. See e.g. Pete Irvine's excellent recent talk<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/CollectiveforC1/status/1496025477399687169?s=20&t=UOohxrxit-DIwUxPGeUREQ__;!!NO21cQ!Tnjn7HdUmAP7qQFU9pBNVPGMXOEa2WqwL1OopFitLWhGtdmYV8mlhaTFDJgCRg$> on that point. Gernot Wagner, New York University (on leave at Columbia Business School, spring 2022) gwagner.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/gwagner.com/__;!!NO21cQ!Tnjn7HdUmAP7qQFU9pBNVPGMXOEa2WqwL1OopFitLWhGtdmYV8mlhaRcUTWZtg$> Keep in touch: gwagner.com/#newsletter<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/gwagner.com/*newsletter__;Iw!!NO21cQ!Tnjn7HdUmAP7qQFU9pBNVPGMXOEa2WqwL1OopFitLWhGtdmYV8mlhaTgwI7DWQ$> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:58 PM <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I might agree with Lomborg that geoengineering research “might just prove to be Earth’s best backup plan” if he meant it as a backup to aggressive mitigation and adaptation. But Lomborg has long called out mitigation as costly and unnecessary as he does again in this piece (and also, e.g. here<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.wsj.com/articles/climate-change-adaptation-panic-exaggerating-disaster-11634760376__;!!NO21cQ!Tnjn7HdUmAP7qQFU9pBNVPGMXOEa2WqwL1OopFitLWhGtdmYV8mlhaS3wBEjfg$>) So I remain entirely comfortable continuing to disagree with him. Peter Frumhoff From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Alan Robock ? Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:32 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; geoengineering <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Stephen Salter <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [geo] An outside-the-box plan to fight climate change - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/Chinadaily.com.cn__;!!NO21cQ!Tnjn7HdUmAP7qQFU9pBNVPGMXOEa2WqwL1OopFitLWhGtdmYV8mlhaRW_o45gQ$> That's not exactly right. What he wrote is: "We should not commence geo-engineering now, since the technology is not ready and we don't yet know enough about it. But we simply cannot afford to not research it. It might just prove to be Earth's best backup plan." I think we all agree with this. I debated him once on CNN. It feels uncomfortable to agree with him. 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