I agree with you, and I only agreed with him on the need for research.
In the past Lomborg actually claimed that economists have shown the SRM
is a solution to global warming, and I published this in response on
RealClimate:
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/08/a-biased-economic-analysis-of-geoengineering/
Alan
On 2/24/2022 3:34 PM, Hawkins, David wrote:
Without trying to be ad hominem, I must say that based on all of
Lomborg’s publications and talks that I am familiar with, he needs to
be viewed as a provocateur, rather than a serious contributor to
effective policy.
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Agreed -- on the continued disagreement with Lomborg, that is.
His framing as "Plan B" is precisely the kind of framing we need to
get away from. See e.g. Pete Irvine's excellent recent talk
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on that point.
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:58 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
I might agree with Lomborg that geoengineering research “might
just prove to be Earth’s best backup plan” if he meant it as a
backup to aggressive mitigation and adaptation. But Lomborg has
long called out mitigation as costly and unnecessary as he does
again in this piece (and also, e.g. here
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So I remain entirely comfortable continuing to disagree with him.
Peter Frumhoff
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*Sent:* Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:32 PM
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That's not exactly right. What he wrote is:
"We should not commence geo-engineering now, since the technology
is not ready and we don't yet know enough about it. But we simply
cannot afford to not research it. It might just prove to be
Earth's best backup plan."
I think we all agree with this. I debated him once on CNN. It
feels uncomfortable to agree with him.
Alan
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On 2/24/2022 2:26 PM, Renaud de RICHTER wrote:
Both SAI and MCB got a strong supporter: Bjorn Lomborg
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