I don't think you have misunderstood - but just because a feature is popular 
does not imply that it has attracted funding and support. 

I do not want to see KML pulled - I do want to highlight the fact it is 
suffering neglect. 

Jody



On 18/06/2011, at 11:55 AM, David Collins <[email protected]> wrote:

> Geoserver will no longer produce KML as an output?
> 
> This sounds like a fairly major discard - that means no more simple mashups 
> using Google Earth or Google Maps.  Also, Geoserver has that really nice 
> dynamic interaction with Google Earth (using KMSCORE, etc.)
> 
> To me, Google Earth is the one way to set up nice views of Geoserver data, 
> for regular/basic users, without writing code.  (Well, just a little KML code 
> to define network links.)
> 
> I'm not saying it shouldn't happen, but shouldn't there should be some 
> investigation about how many people are using the Geoserver to interact with 
> Google Earth?
> 
> Or have I misunderstood?
> 
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Justin Deoliveira <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Well since KML is maintainerless I think fairly all you can do is get things 
> to compile and tests passing in KML (which should not be hard given the test 
> coverage) and you are off the hook.
> 
> And since KML has become a liability we need to consider yanking it out and 
> deprecating it. I am not sure if you are advocating that we remove it 
> immediately Jody? I think we would at least have to give users one release 
> cycle and announce clearly that we are dropping support for it.
> 
> 2c.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Andrea Aime <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Jody Garnett <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Chris:
> >
> > Andrea has been politely helping clean up some of the rendering code in 
> > GeoTools; but has not really asked in a blunt enough fashion on the 
> > geoserver-devel list.
> >
> > The KML code is going to be need in of some serious QA and testing after 
> > this patch; do you have any developers who would be good for the work? We 
> > could arrange an IRC breakout session (and I could be available to answer 
> > any api change questions).
> >
> > I don't want to see this patch go ahead; and you learn about a sudden drop 
> > in quality when taking GeoServer into production at the end of this release 
> > cycle.
> 
> "Death of kml" is of course exxagerated, but in fact I could only
> check that the patch attached to
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-4597 builds, I did not attempt to
> use any of the many
> KML output forms, options and whatnot.
> The code coverage is not high and I'm confident we'll see some
> ClassCastException in some
> code path in KML when the code tries to use a layer as a vector layer
> (because it needs
> a feature source and a style) when the old code chewed  raster layers
> the same way anyways
> (I tried to pay attention, but it's a maze in there, not sure what all
> the possible call paths are)
> 
> So it would really need someone to check and fix. I'm not volunteering
> to be that person.
> 
> Cheers
> Andrea
> 
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