On 24-01-15 18:08, Andrea Aime wrote:
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Niels Charlier <ni...@scitus.be <mailto:ni...@scitus.be>> wrote:I don't think it is reasonable to object against an advancement on the ground that users prefer simplicity of use above increased flexibility; if the flexibility is entirely optional and the simpler and less flexible way of doing things is still perfectly preserved.The core of the issue is not simple vs flexible, is that you're trying to mix in a seemingly hierarchical structure something that has nothing to do with hierarchy, it's conceptually, semantically bound tofail.
I agree with you that the hierarchy between services and layers is artificial, but that artificial hierarchy was also present in your counterproposal to my initial proposal.
The idea of this proposal has always been from the beginning that inside data security it would become possible to have optional service security as a further specificity. That simply follows from the fact that it still an extension of data security; and not a fully integrated rule system like geofence. The whole premise of the proposal is thus the reason for this virtual hierarchy.
You were willing to accept this artificial hierarchy initially. You only rejected the possibility of having a hierarchy with wildcards followed by non-wildcards, even though I showed that they could be supported in the hierarchical logic with minimal change. In my opinion the line between what you are willing to accept and not accept is arbitrary and you motivations seem contradictory. Based on your current argument you should have rejected the idea of the proposal from the beginning.
Anyway, I do not have any personal stake at this, I simply have a request and an opinion on possibilities. Your stance is clear. I will leave it up to to others to decide now.
Regards Niels
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