Part of the problem is the general lack of freely available 3d geodata (other than terrain) to play with and which technology to pursue, i.e plugin ( http://ostatic.com/blog/googles-o3d-joins-mozillas-effort-to-bring-rich-3d-environments-to-browsers) vs HTML5 ( http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/creating-pseudo-3d-games-with-html-5-can-1/ )
People are thinking about it, but its early in the process. sophia On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Damon H <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Mike, > As a mixed reality metaversan, AR is one of my favorite areas of this > convergence of multiple technologies. > > 1. What kind of geodata and locative media will be most useful or fun to > see geopositioned in 3d in our handheld viewfinders. > > If one can enhance efficiency in reality thru augmentation, what can't you > use it for? > > On a personal interest level, I am seeing a growing interest from the > cultural heritage and museum space. Even a few AR projects I am working on > at the moment involve "mixed reality museums". > ARCHEOGUIDE<http://archeoguide.intranet.gr/project.htm>seems like a great > example of how the tech and geo can be used even tho I > feel the HMDs are a little too old school for the younger traveler. Of > course Metaio is doing great things with museums as seen > here<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQfCndsnXUc>. > > > 2. How will we search, view, create, and serve open 3d AR geodata? > We will search probably thru Google or Bing. View thru many different > apps/players and create from many tools. To serve it up, that is where we > will need standards. It is wise for the community to support liaisons like > that of the OGC <http://www.opengeospatial.org/> with Web3D > Consortium<http://web3d.org/>. > I want to join the diehards coming out of their silos for collaboration and > action to ensure that the AR web stays open and free especially from any one > dominant player (e.g. Google) and the sooner the better. Perhaps a SFBay > area ARDevelopers Camp is in order? > > 3. What is the prospective FOSS stack for 3dAR geoservices? > All kinds of standards and FOSS will continue to develop as these > technologies emerge and mix. CityGML, X3D, and open source ARKits like this > one <http://thetechnologist.tv/blog/iphone-arkit-released-iphonedevcamp>for > mobile devices will definitely lead the charge. The iPhone ARkit guys > (younger group) knocked this out this past weekend while I was at the > IDC3. <http://www.iphonedevcamp.org/> Imagine what a team of seasoned pros > from this group could knock out. Again, perhaps an ARDevelopers Camp? > > Using the X3D open standard, the groups I work with have created very > interactive AR content and are looking to bring more geo3D to AR. Pop up AR > windows and tags are nice, but those of us (Gen X/Y) want the geoweb of > information, 3D building overlays, avatars walking next to us down the > street, and other Ghost In the Shell type AR for those familiar. If those in > the geo community don't crank the gas on AR, Google will. Then, like now, > will be those interested stuck in KML/KMZ land when better more robust tech > is available. > > I thank the Europeans (Layar, Wikitude, Enkin, Metaio, Total Immersion, > Fraunhofer, etc.) for really pushing AR into the mobile and web mainstream. > > If our geosphere is not ready, then I can't think of a better place or > group of people, the GeoWankers, to take it there. > > IMHO > Damon H > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Mike Liebhold <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is a humble request for geowanker mappers and geocoding web artists >> alike to join me to quiet our 2d cartographic minds for a minute to engage >> in a little thought experiment about handheld views of 3d geodata: >> >> Context: The realtime tweetsphere http://bit.ly/rZncR and >> youtubesphere http://bit.ly/UwQ3u are alive with news of handheld AR, >> [agumented reality] capabilities & apps, and services. Besides layar and >> wikitude on android, there are already a number cool hacks for jailbroken >> iPhones, and veiled confirmations from apple that the next rev. of the >> iphone os dev release for the 3gs will support AR app integration of gps, >> compass, and graphic overlay of video cam views. The viewfinder is becoming >> a new AR 3d web browser. >> >> AR is here, if not today, tomorrow, but i suspect our geosphere is not >> ready. >> >> questions for fellow geowankers: >> >> 1. What kind of geodata and locative media will be most useful or fun to >> see geopositioned in 3d in our handheld viewfinders. >> >> e.g. floating labels of things, animated directions, emergency alerts, >> news and ads to filter, cartoon games, visible clouds of wifi signal >> strength, visible sensor net readings of air quality.. visible entry into >> another colored polygon >> of cartographic meaning, etc. >> >> 2. How will we search, view, create, and serve open 3d AR geodata? >> >> 3. What is the prospective FOSS stack for 3dAR geoservices? >> >> e.g. starting at the top with a 3D firefox or open layers equivelant >> client down to a cloudwide RESTful deep geocoded web of linked 3D geodata? >> >> Just curious, what people are thinking these days . . . >> >> Mike >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Geowanking mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org >> > > > > -- > 3D Web & Metaverse builder > "We are all students of the emerging 3D web" > > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org > >
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