Damon H wrote:
Perhaps a SFBay area ARDevelopers Camp is in order?

HI Damon,

a SFBay area AR geo dev camp sounds like a great idea.I'd be happy to host a saturday hackathon at IFTF.org, our non-profit research lab in downtown Palo Alto, midway between the City and SJ valley We have one big meeting area, for about 50 and 6-7 small breakout areas, that we've used in the past for sciencecamps , bio-barcamps and wherecamp sessions.

There's plenty of topics for breakouts:
AR user experience design
AR geobrowsers
AR dream apps
AR geo games
AR utility apps
geopositioning rendered AR objects
android and iphone dev environments
AR/gis/cad/vworlds  data and applications interoperability
ARtoolkit, QRcodes and other image triggered AR
etc.

Who else would be interested? We can ping some other lists, and the #AR hashtag channel on twitter.

Cheers-

Mike

Mike Liebhold
Senior Researcher
Institute for the Future
124 University Ave,
Palo Alto, Ca.
IFTF.org


3. What is the  prospective FOSS stack for 3dAR geoservices?
All kinds of standards and FOSS will continue to develop as these technologies emerge and mix. CityGML, X3D, and open source ARKits like this one <http://thetechnologist.tv/blog/iphone-arkit-released-iphonedevcamp> for mobile devices will definitely lead the charge. The iPhone ARkit guys (younger group) knocked this out this past weekend while I was at the IDC3. <http://www.iphonedevcamp.org/> Imagine what a team of seasoned pros from this group could knock out. Again, perhaps an ARDevelopers Camp? Using the X3D open standard, the groups I work with have created very interactive AR content and are looking to bring more geo3D to AR. Pop up AR windows and tags are nice, but those of us (Gen X/Y) want the geoweb of information, 3D building overlays, avatars walking next to us down the street, and other Ghost In the Shell type AR for those familiar. If those in the geo community don't crank the gas on AR, Google will. Then, like now, will be those interested stuck in KML/KMZ land when better more robust tech is available.

I thank the Europeans (Layar, Wikitude, Enkin, Metaio, Total Immersion, Fraunhofer, etc.) for really pushing AR into the mobile and web mainstream.

If our geosphere is not ready, then I can't think of a better place or group of people, the GeoWankers, to take it there.

IMHO
Damon H

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Mike Liebhold <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    This is a humble request for geowanker mappers and geocoding web
    artists alike to join me to quiet our 2d cartographic minds for a
    minute to engage in a little thought experiment about  handheld
    views of 3d geodata:

    Context:   The realtime tweetsphere  http://bit.ly/rZncR and
    youtubesphere   http://bit.ly/UwQ3u are alive with news of
    handheld AR, [agumented reality] capabilities & apps, and
    services. Besides layar and wikitude on android, there are already
    a number cool hacks for jailbroken iPhones, and veiled
    confirmations from apple that the next rev. of the iphone os dev
    release for the 3gs will support AR app integration of gps,
    compass, and graphic overlay of video cam views.  The viewfinder
    is becoming a new AR 3d web browser.

    AR is here, if not today, tomorrow, but i suspect our geosphere is
    not ready.

    questions for fellow geowankers:

    1. What kind of geodata and locative media will be most useful or
    fun to see geopositioned in 3d in our handheld viewfinders.

    e.g.  floating labels of things, animated directions, emergency
    alerts,  news and ads to filter, cartoon games, visible clouds of
    wifi signal strength, visible sensor net readings of air quality..
    visible entry into another colored polygon
    of cartographic meaning, etc.

    2. How will we search, view, create, and serve open 3d AR geodata?

    3. What is the  prospective FOSS stack for 3dAR geoservices?

    e.g.  starting at the top with a 3D firefox or open layers
    equivelant client down to a cloudwide RESTful deep geocoded web of
    linked 3D geodata?

    Just curious, what people are thinking these days . . .

    Mike


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