yah, i know. too many buzzwords. missing necessary snarkiness. baseline, I worry that google will build the whole AR thing with KML while we slumber,

Sean Gillies wrote:
Mike, I was trying to help you get from "cloudwide RESTful deep geocoded web of linked 3D geodata" to full buzzword compliance.

Ask Bill Turkel about his Lab for Humanistic Fabrication.

 http://history.uwo.ca/faculty/turkel/

On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Mike Liebhold wrote:

wow! I didn't expect many replies from busy people to my questions about handheld viewfinder AR views of 3d geodata, but given the staggering potential for AR as a radical new kind of mapping is mind-boggling, I am a bit surprised that in the 24 hours of my post, this normally verbose community has nothing to say. Aside from a mild suggestion by Sean Gillies of "democratizated service-oriented architectures of curation" no one else offered any thoughts at all about viewfinder AR views of 3d geodata.

We can only guess why the silence:

( ) a. Mostly into map views of geodata, not very interested in viewfinder AR 3d geo.

( ) b. AR 3dgeo is interesting, but haven't thought much about it.

( ) c. Have some ideas about AR 3dgeo, looking into it, waiting for apis, to experiment

( ) d. Already into AR 3dgeo, not saying much about what we're doing until it's ready.

( ) e. Have some ideas a bout AR 3dgeo, but am too fr*&#n busy to respond to random listserv e-mails :-)

whatever. AR looks like a fun, open frontier in both geoscience and geohacking, let's hope the foss gang gets there before goog & apple own it.

- Mike


Mike Liebhold wrote:
This is a humble request for geowanker mappers and geocoding web artists alike to join me to quiet our 2d cartographic minds for a minute to engage in a little thought experiment about handheld views of 3d geodata:

Context: The realtime tweetsphere http://bit.ly/rZncR and youtubesphere http://bit.ly/UwQ3u are alive with news of handheld AR, [agumented reality] capabilities & apps, and services. Besides layar and wikitude on android, there are already a number cool hacks for jailbroken iPhones, and veiled confirmations from apple that the next rev. of the iphone os dev release for the 3gs will support AR app integration of gps, compass, and graphic overlay of video cam views. The viewfinder is becoming a new AR 3d web browser.

AR is here, if not today, tomorrow, but i suspect our geosphere is not ready.

questions for fellow geowankers:

1. What kind of geodata and locative media will be most useful or fun to see geopositioned in 3d in our handheld viewfinders.

e.g. floating labels of things, animated directions, emergency alerts, news and ads to filter, cartoon games, visible clouds of wifi signal strength, visible sensor net readings of air quality.. visible entry into another colored polygon
of cartographic meaning, etc.

2. How will we search, view, create, and serve open 3d AR geodata?

3. What is the  prospective FOSS stack for 3dAR geoservices?

e.g. starting at the top with a 3D firefox or open layers equivelant client down to a cloudwide RESTful deep geocoded web of linked 3D geodata?

Just curious, what people are thinking these days . . .

Mike


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