Competent hacking does not an open data policy make. Access to the data services is, of course, great. This stuff could -- and should -- have been made available weeks ago.
The question to ask is, has BP (and/or TRG) been calling the shots with respect to strategic vision for how the public sees data? Has Unified Command had the appropriate vision -- unadulterated by BP's influence -- to implement an open data strategy that improves public -- and official -- access to critical data? Whether deliberate or not, the GulfofMexicoResponseMap.com viewer doesn't look like an intentional open data policy to me. Another issue is one of *meaningful* data. For those who are able to hack the site to get data, do you see any useful attributes in those KML and KMZ files? Do you know what the Louisiana Protection Strategy is (KMZ<http://www.gulfofmexicoresponsemap.com/ArcGIS/rest/services/MC252_Incident_Data/MapServer/5/query?text=&geometry=&geometryType=esriGeometryEnvelope&inSR=&spatialRel=esriSpatialRelIntersects&where=0%3D0&returnGeometry=true&outSR=&outFields=&f=kmz>)? Can you differentiate between types of defenses (boom, tiger dams, Hesco baskets)? More importantly, can public officials who need to see what the planned strategies are in bayous and beaches differentiate between types of defenses? The casual appearance of transparency is not the same as deliberate, meaningful transparency. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Sean Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > Didn't get 5 clicks deeps to find the link below the fold, but fair enough > point you can query data. Good luck getting 99.9% of the world responding > to a disaster to successfully get any data out of it. > > You find the map - you know enough to get back to server pages - you > navigate to the query page - you know how to write a geometry filter. How > many people are going to sort that out. > > I think you need to get out more if that is the best you've seen. > > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:45 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:28 AM, ext Sean Gorman wrote: >> >> > IMHO an AGS mapping service is about as open as a PDF. It is a picture >> on a map - nothing more. Open and AGS should be an oxymoron. Seriously try >> getting anything out of that second link other than a picture. >> >> Er, >> >> >> http://www.gulfofmexicoresponsemap.com/ArcGIS/rest/services/MC252_Incident_Data/MapServer/6/query?text=&geometry=-180%2C+-90%2C+180%2C+90&geometryType=esriGeometryEnvelope&inSR=&spatialRel=esriSpatialRelIntersects&where=&returnGeometry=true&outSR=4326&outFields=NAME%2C+State&f=kmz >> >> All of: >> >> >> http://www.gulfofmexicoresponsemap.com/ArcGIS/rest/services/MC252_Incident_Data/MapServer/1 >> >> are queryable: >> >> >> http://www.gulfofmexicoresponsemap.com/ArcGIS/rest/services/MC252_Incident_Data/MapServer/5/query >> >> This is a far sight better than any other non-ArcGIS GIS system I've seen. >> >> >> > It means none of this data can remixed reused or repurposed. Which from >> a disaster response stand point makes it of limited value. >> >> You seem to be lost if you think you can't re-use this data. Vector KMZs >> with Geometries seem pretty useful to me. If you can't re-use those, I don't >> know what you *do* want. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Christopher Schmidt >> Nokia >> >> > > > -- > Sean P. Gorman PhD. > FortiusOne Inc. > 2200 Wilson Blvd. Suite 307 > Arlington VA, 22201 > Mobile: 202-321-3914 > Office: 703-647-2151 > @seangorman > > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org > >
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