Btw, "gateway drug for the ESRI kool-aid" gets my vote as most metaphor-dense phrase of the year so far.
----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Wolf <[email protected]> To: Bucci, David G Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sun Jan 16 17:33:00 2011 Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Geowanking] Web-based geoservices for state government > newest USGS National Map is based on a project that was developed at NGA Actually, the Palanterra Viewer would end up being a gateway drug for the Esri kool-aid. It is an interesting option because it's loaded with features. But that's one of the biggest complaints about the Palanterra-based National Map - it's more complicated than it needs to be. GeoIQ (ala Geocommons) has become a case study in user-centered design: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470998245,descCd-tableOfContents.html While Joshua and Puneet are in most ways correct - the real question should be "what do you want to do?" I read the original problem of moving from an 70s parcel system to a 21st century system as "What would really define a 21st century parcel system"? And because the question is being asked here, I feel like the underlying question is "What is feasible for me on my budget?" -Eric -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734 On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Bucci, David G <[email protected]> wrote: > Btw, didn’t say this, but part of why I asked is I was wondering if any > really good hard looks have been done that factor in the emerging (buzzword > alert) cloud-based options. > > > > From: Bucci, David G > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:37 PM > To: 'Joshua Lieberman'; Puneet Kishor > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Re: [Geowanking] Web-based geoservices for state government > > > > GOTS = Government Off The Shelf – states have access to a pool of software > to use as a basis for systems via certain channels. E.g., at the federal > level, the newest USGS National Map is based on a project that was developed > at NGA. > > > > Not disagreeing that technical product selection isn’t the beginning, need > to define your goals, build your ecosystem – but that’s what the OP asked > about … > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joshua Lieberman > > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:27 PM > To: Puneet Kishor > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Geowanking] Web-based geoservices for state > government > > > > Still not really asking the right questions. Building a digital parcel > ecosystem is much larger than web platform tech choices. Otherwise it > becomes moot without the content. > > Josh Lieberman > > On Jan 16, 2011, at 14:15, Puneet Kishor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Bucci, David G wrote: > > Not an Apple fan, AM an SU fan, so I’ll play orange for this round. Of > different product selections (FOSS, COTS, GOTS in this case, I suppose) to > use as the base for the project that was described, was what I was thinking. > > > > The question is still too broad, too generic. Selections and technology are > secondary. What you want to accomplish is primary. If there is something > that a software/technology cannot do, and *that* is exactly what you need to > do, then you *have* to look elsewhere. > > > > How about restricting the scope of the inquiry -- perhaps a tradeoff between > different map servers, or between different spatial data storage mechanisms, > heck, perhaps even between Windows or Unix or, ahem, cough, Macs. Just > trying to figure out the difference between FOSS, COTS, GOTS (I have no idea > what the heck GOTS is, but I gots some COTS and FOSS) without specifying the > capabilities one wishes to deliver is a very amorphous exercise. > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Puneet Kishor > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 1:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Geowanking] EXTERNAL: Re: Web-based geoservices for state > government > > > > > > On Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Bucci, David G wrote: > > Stepping back, does anyone know of any published studies where somebody > (without an ax to grind) really surveyed the marketplace and did a tradeoff > analysis? > > .. > > > > > > Everyone has an axe to grind, no matter how blunt the axe might be. > > > > That said, analysis of tradeoff between what and what, asked the apple of > the orange? > > > > -- > Puneet Kishor > > Sent with Sparrow > > > > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org > > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org > > _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected] http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org
