Hi Stefan,

we don't support Layar any more so I can't provide you help with
specific dev options there.  But you might like to checkout the
"rel" parameter on the hotspots.transform block.
http://www.layar.com/documentation/browser/api/getpois-response/hotspots/#hotspots-transform

And here's a layer one of our customers created using buildAR.com that
shows a 3D model of a proposed building in-situ on the physical
building site. http://m.layar.com/open/buildar11516 Of course you'll
need to set your browsers location to near Cecil Park, NSW, Australia
to see it.

Junaio also definitely support this and we'll have a range of demos
that you can checkout when we launch the new version of buildAR.com in a
few weeks.

By default in Junaio the 3D object's orientation is fixed. The cool
thing is that now we can reach into the AR scene and manipulate the
objects orientation/transform using javascript from the html5 layer we
put on top.  This is one of the key reasons we're moving over to support
Junaio as it's more in line with our broader Augmented Web strategy.

NOTE: This migration meant we had to delay the release of our
open source awe.js project by a few months until mid September.

roBman 


On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:44:00 +0200
Stefan Keller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Rob
> 
> Thanks very much for the answers.
> 
> Up to now I've only seen layers with 3D objects - either like monsters
> or flat images which always turn towards me, or centered around my
> current position - wherever I'm located on earth. So just to be sure:
> I'm looking for solution which displays 3D objects at their absolute
> place with fixed orientation (similar to this house given it's really
> at the coordinate and rotation where it's planned
> http://glorar.com/templates/images/slides/img-3.jpg ).
> 
> Can you give me an example of a such a Layar and/or Junaio layer? We
> struggled now for quite some time with Layar and the 3D Converter tool
> (and the support there seems to me mute). If yes, I'm very interested
> to see a JSON response from as a working example.
> 
> Stefan
> 
> 
> 2012/8/24 Rob Manson <[email protected]>:
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > this is definitely more a discussion for the developer lists than
> > the ARStandards.org list.
> >
> >
> >> We are trying to implement two obvious things which seem to be
> >> hard or almost impossible:
> >>
> >> 1. I simply want to display a realistic 3D object (like in .obj
> >> format) representing a building or an architectural artefact. This
> >> building has a fixed orientation (in contrast to other POIs which
> >> are flat and "turn towards me").
> >> ...
> >> => Does anyone know an freely available AR app which can display 3D
> >> objects really?
> >
> > Both Junaio and Layar definitely do support this.  Layar requires
> > you to convert .obj files into .l3d format using their 3D Converter
> > tool. Junaio supports both .obj and .md2 without any conversion.
> >
> > A wide range of our buildAR.com customers have created these types
> > of Layar based layers and we're working on a range of Junaio based
> > channels like this at the moment.
> >
> >
> >> 2. I'd like to get access to the camera in common mobile browsers
> >> using HTML5. My latest information is that this in the specs of
> >> HTML5 but it's currently only possible in Opera with a hack.
> >> Correct?
> >
> > Opera is the only browser on Android that does this out of the box
> > using the getUserMedia API - which is still going through a few spec
> > changes.
> >
> > Chrome also does support this and if you have the latest version on
> > a couple of PC's then you can try out the great WebGLMeeting demo
> > that combines getUserMedia with WebRTC and in-browser 3D too.  It's
> > at https://webglmeeting.appspot.com but seems to be down due
> > to "exceeded quota" at the moment.  You can checkout a video of it
> > here
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fjb7xBnxq9k
> >
> > If you want to see what browsers support which features then I'd
> > recommend checking out http://caniuse.com or similar - see
> > http://caniuse.com/#feat=stream for getUserMedia coverage.
> >
> >
> > roBman
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discussion mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://arstandards.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
> 


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