That's great Nat. I guess it's up to me (and other geowankers) to come
up with some really cutting edge stuff now and make proposals for
speeches.

Cheers,
Tom Longson (nym)
http://igargoyle.com/

On 1/25/06, Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For a non-technologist conference, there was a lot of technologist
> > companies making big technologist announcements. I had a great time
> > despite having people saying to me before I left, "You're going
> > where?". I think a bunch of the geowankers got free tickets at the
> > last minute, so gnat may have reversed his "I don't want wank"
> > statements. How can anyone not want wank? I hope I get invited again
> > next year, and more geowankers get to speak.
>
> I did indeed change my tune.  We were chasing a rapidly developing
> mashup world and trying to figure out how to do a Big Budget
> Conference with business people and the technologists we know and
> love.  We started off thinking "business people want business wank",
> but there are dozens of conference offering business wank and
> everyone's sick of it.  Business people turned out to really like
> meeting the people who were turning things upside down.  I think Where
> 2.0 ended up as a pretty good mix of technology and business, and I
> want to do it like that again this year.
>
> Don't be put off by the marketing copy on the web site.  I'm working
> on a version that better represents the mixture of technology and
> business, and the reason for putting things on stage.  We're trying to
> showcase the projects that are shaking up the
> geolocation/mapping/local scenes.  These projects are almost always
> from one or more of these worlds:
>  * civic action work
>  * hackers / geowankers / alpha geeks (hi!)
>  * open source
>  * startup
>
> They're never from big fat companies with "respect" and "names".  ESRI
> is like Microsoft, like any big company, slave to its businss model.
> It can't do new things, because new things threaten old things, and it
> makes all its money off old things.  (I realize you know this, I'm
> stating it so you know that I know it :-)  Putting ESRI on stage to
> talk about disruptive innovation would be like putting the MPAA up to
> talk about disruptive music distribution models.  There may be other
> reasons to put ESRI on stage, but it's highly unlikely to be because
> they're genuinely turning the GIS world on its head.
>
> So I want to show the projects that are hurting the old way of doing
> things, have some people talk about how things are changing (just to
> spell it out), and then leave it to the audience to figure out where
> to make the money, or even whether there is money to be made.  I was
> talking with Chris Holmes tonight and in conversation came upon that
> formulation: we'll show you how the world's changing, you figure out
> for yourself where the money is.
>
> So I am definitely open to geowankers.  Ignore what ur-Nat said.  Nat
> in early 2006 is saying "bring me your geowankers, your open source
> toolkit creators, your huddled Google Maps hackers".  If anyone
> reading this is interested in presenting at Where 2.0, getting your
> project out to the press (we had NYT, Economist, Wired, and others),
> getting in front of business people who are making decisions about
> what to use, or even getting in front of VCs and angel investors if
> you think that money could help what you're doing.
>
> Nat
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