Kristen our comments should hurt you. They should hurt you to the point of
making you want to change. If it takes you so long to learn not to make
mistakes (which I have a feeling is just another one of your pathetic
excuses) then you need to back off of the GML for awhile and just read and
learn, not "participate" (a term I use very loosely because your
"participation" has been nothing but trouble). And how many mistakes do you
have to make over and over again? And what does it take for you to get it?
Any reasonable person would have gotten it after being kicked out of the AGS
and reprimanded so many times! Like I said in another message, if you can't
take the heat, then back off until you grow up and can behave appropriately!
You are immature and irresponsible and you have no place on the GML until
that changes!
Meg
--
Breeder of Mongolian Gerbils
http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/4243/gerbils.html
Governing Committee Member & Ethics Committee Chairperson,
American Gerbil Society
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/8181/AGS/index.html
Gus: Got to find something to chew! Mom! Give me something to chew!
Silver: Gus doesn't your jaw get sore from chewing all the time?
Arrow, Slategirl, Sunkist, Lucky, Pepper, Socks, Flower, and Tiny:
Maybe if I chew on these wires long enough I will chew my way out!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristen Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks and goodbye
> In a message dated 00-01-27 23:55:00 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Sounds like somebody needs to get a clue about Kristen, and it's not
you
> Bill. All the help that she may give to people, which I doubt is very
much
> unless she is a completely different person via private e-mail (which I
also
> doubt very much) does not override all her "mistake" postings (especially
> not the illegal spam she posted last week), her immaturity, and her
general
> disruptive and attention-seeking behavior. The trouble Kristen has
caused
> far, far, far outweighs any help she may have given people. People need
to
> realize that, while Kristen may have helped them individually, she is a
> troll who is causing a lot of people a lot of problems.
>
> I haven't said anything about the moderator issue, but this, to me,
> underscores the need for some kind of monitoring other than ignoring
> Kristen. If she could be removed from the list, then decent people like
> Bill would not feel the need to leave.
>
> I am about ready to leave myself. Not because of Kristen, but because I
am
> sick of people who are so blind to what she is doing and who/what she
really
> is, and continue to defend her. We've been patient with Kristen, we've
> tried to help her, we've given her far more chances than most people
would,
> and she just doesn't get it and doesn't change. Kristen is here for no
> other reason but to get attention to try to boost her ego and be the
center
> of attention, and she will try to accomplish this any way she can--good
or
> bad. Why can't people see that?! >>
>
> Some of you may think this is why i'm here.. but none of you REALLY
ACTULLY
> know me.. deep inside and the TRUE feelings I have.. i'm here to help..
but
> not only to help.. but to learn.. I know there has been MANY times that I
> have made a mistake on this list, but noone knows what goes on outside of
> this list, in my life.. I make many mistakes with family problems and
> friends.. and as many of my REAL friends know, it takes me along time to
> learn how to get along and to learn how to not make such easy mistakes..
you
> can scream and yell at me all you want, it doesn't hurt me, it actully
helps
> me.. to learn not to REPEAT my mistake as I know I have done MANY times
and i
> know many times things are starting look better about me, but then all the
> sudden go right back down.. and i apoligize, i'm not asking for sorrow,
i'm
> just asking for you to understand.. and not judge me, becasue you don't
> really know who i'm, just like as someone posted on the list a few days
ago
> about the two people and should they sell the gerbils to them, because of
the
> way they sounded.. just as we said, we don't know who they are, and you
> CANNOT know a person through the internet, people can fake there selfs and
> you can never know.. but have any of you every thought that someone could
be
> telling the truth, and you can never tell.. so none of you REALLY know who
> i'm, i'm speaking as well, for my friends.. on the GML, you don't really
know
> me.. even though i sound like i could be the nicest person in the world,
your
> not sure of that are you? I bet even you have doubts about me sometimes,
but
> thats ok, i understand, because at times I have my doubts, but don't we
all?
> To some of you I might be what you call a "troll" and to some of you i
might
> be what you call a "friend" ...
>
