I have blueyonder too and I agree they can have problems with mail
occasionally. But I didn't know it was possible to set up email lists
on them - that is very interesting. How do you do it? I haven't even
used my webspace there as I have hosted webspace elsewhere with my
domain name which has the database and scripting capabilities I need.

But why not Yahoo? I moderate a list on there and it has nothing
except unsubscribe instructions tagged on to the mails. Or is that no
longer an option? My list was with egroups to start with. I have
noticed that the rabbit and guinea pig lists on there have ads at the
bottom, but I assumed it was an option as mine doesn't.

Yahoo groups work really well, and I for one would find it very
convenient as I have several lists there already.

Best wishes
Louise
http://www.joethedragon.co.uk
moderator SPHE yahoo group for home educating single parents

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: List Close Down


> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Anthony
> Pottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >Hi Julian,
> >
> >Are you still planning on going over to Topica?  I didn't realise
you were
> >planning ahead with it and I think I've jumped the gun... :{
> >
>
> Hi!
>
> Thank you for your kind offer to have moderator privileges.
>
> The issue is that this list does things by consent. I have set up
the
> Topica list and deliberately not invited subscriptions because there
had
> not been an opportunity for the members to decide what they want to
do.
>
> I grabbed the [EMAIL PROTECTED] account simply to ensure it was
> available if necessary. I was not planning on inviting subscriptions
> until everything was properly agreed so that we could agree a date
when
> we would transfer over. We have until June before the current server
> will close the GML so there was no hurry.
>
> Unfortunately things have moved much faster than I was anticipating
so I
> have arranged for Topica, which has full 24/7 browser access to
posts,
> archives etc to send an invitation to all GML subscribers. All
anyone
> has to do is reply to it to be automatically subscribed.
>
> Like you I have a Blueyonder account. We can all run listservers if
we
> want to. But I have serious problems with a server on a private
server.
> The list needs to be in public ownership. For example, some time ago
> there was a person who had a very successful gerbil bulletin board
and
> other services on a large and popular website. When he disappeared
and
> his site closed without warning there were problems because the
users
> had no way of contacting one another except through the GML. If the
same
> happened to the GML it would be disastrous. Topica have proved to
have
> very good customer service. I know Michelle says she has lost some
> Topica posts, but I have never experienced that.
>
> Unless a mailing list is on a computer that runs 24 hours a day, has
> backup of systems and power to ensure availability in emergencies,
it
> will not be as good as Topica or Yahoo.
>
> I am of course happy to go to Yahoo, but I find there screens noisy
and
> difficult to use and their advertising in e-mails can be annoying.
>
> I am also worried that the Blueyonder mail system is not always very
> reliable. I no longer use it and have all my mail collected by POP3
from
> outside Blueyonder's mail system. I would be unhappy with the GML
being
> dependant on this mail system, especially as the company that runs
it
> (Telewest) is losing money fast and is looking to be bought out by
NTL
> whose system is even worse.
>
> Although I am inviting people to subscribe to Topica I do not want
them
> to stop posting here. I am merely giving people the chance to try it
> out. I do not want discussion of  the future of this list to stop
> either. I just want to make sure there are options and that we do
not
> leap to a decision. Remember , we have months to resolve this.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Julian
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> National Gerbil Society
> http://www.gerbils.co.uk/

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