On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Is GGI/KGI ending as a curiosity - another kind of graphics library - ,
> >
> > I am afraid it will - regarding Linux.
> >
> > > or does it have a future as a basic part of Linux?
> >
> > It has a future, but I assume it will rather be in the embedded systems
> > market. It's used quite some there .... ;-).
> >
> > Yeah, I know - all that sounds pretty pessimistic. And I always feel pretty
> > sad, when it comes to that topic. GGI is "my baby" more than any other open
> > source project. And there is quite some blood, sweat and tears I and several
> > other people put into it, so it really hurts to see it fall in decay. I'm
> > pretty busy these days juggling two jobs, so I don't have so much time left
> > to work on GGI. While this is bad for GGI, it helps a little to distract me
> > from my "broken heart" about the project's state.
>
> I totally dissagree. GGI has just recently become extremely useable. I use
> it every day, from things to playing 3-monitor quake (i.e. midget wars ;) to
> running multiple X servers. Running these things, is uncovering some kernel
> bugs. (USB support was implementing scheduling wrong, and would OOPS (think
> it's fixed now), the matrox fbdev stopped recognizing a second matrox card
> somewhere between 2.4.0-test5 and 2.4.0-test6, etc)
LibGGI pushes the linux console, fbcon and fbdev a lot harder than
just about anything else does.
> I'm not shure if the
> "computer hangs when switching VC's" is the kernels fault or libGGI's,
The kernel's. No non-suid userspace code should be able to crash
the kernel. There are races all through the console subsystem. The Linux
console project is trying to fix these problems, but it looks like the
bulk of that code will not go in until 2.5 development begins.
> Even sunday i had someone telling me about playing quake in text mode... that
> had the scent of GGI all over it :) so somebody's using it.
Actually, that is probably the specific Quake-on-textmode hack
which was announced several months back. I've gotten Quake II to run
through GGIMesa using LibGGI's AAlib target, but it took quite a bit of
hacking since the AAlib target is not current with the newest version of
AAlib.
Jon
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