Thanks Julian provide an ecosystem where people are not even tempted to resort to LLMs, > because usability and documentation is excellent anyway
I agree that Gitlab should be better. There is a real problem with DOS due to crawlers. Magnus and Ben spent an entire weekend addressing this. But even with perfect Gitlab and CI I think that many people will find LLMs useful. I don't think it's for us to dictate the tools people use; we should focus on the impact on the code base and the community. On the point of "Challenges" I feel the "Cognitive impact" part is a bit > short If you want to offer a couple of pointers to evidence-based papers, I could add them. Simon On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 at 10:30, Julian Ospald via ghc-devs < [email protected]> wrote: > Hey Simon, I like the policy as it clearly states that we do prefer human > written code and want to engage with other humans as we collaborate. > There's more to GHC and the community around it than trying to hammer out a > product in the most efficient way conceivable. It's sharing knowledge, > exploring ideas and collaboration. > > I think the main point for me is how do we foster and maintain motivation? > Part of the contributors feel demotivated by LLMs, others feel enabled. I > think the "enablement" part is largely due to accessibility issues and poor > contribution experience, which we have a direct impact on. I have > effectively stopped all contributions to GHC due to the state of Gitlab and > CI. So if we say that we prefer human written code etc, it's now our turn > to provide an ecosystem where people are not even tempted to resort to > LLMs, because usability and documentation is excellent anyway and there are > people who can actively mentor. > > On the point of "Challenges" I feel the "Cognitive impact" part is a bit > short. There's more going on than just deskilling. Studies have shown that > just 10 minutes use causes a decline in reading comprehension. We have > evidence of people with no prior mental health history developing severe > psychosis. There's increasing research about impact of frequent AI > interaction on human judgement... and it doesn't look good. And I feel this > point is commonly overlooked: I think these tools can subvert judgement of > senior engineers. And I would like that we call this concern out more > specifically. Building trust in an open source community is often a long > and painful process... the advent of LLMs is disrupting our trust > relationships. > _______________________________________________ > ghc-devs mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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