Gimp Devs,

  I have used gimp for many years and appreciate the work you have done. 
However, with the 2.8 release, for the first time in a decade, I was sorely 
disappointed in the direction the package had gone. Immediately apparent was 
the file/save dialog changes that interject unnecessary export requirements and 
leave the user with an unwanted 'untitled' image on the screen when they are 
done. Despite the outcry from the community and user base, the response from 
the developers was basically - stick it! We don't care what the user base 
wants, we know what you need - deal with it. 

  Not to be outdone in arrogance, the official description of 
the file open/save dialog belittles and insults the user community stating that 
those affected by the change are low-level users who should find some other 
free product to use. I was floored. I never again thought I would see that same 
type of arrogance that accompanied the kde 3-4 debacle -- I was wrong. 
  This is why open-source fails to gain wider acceptance. When 1-2 developers 
can change the traditional behavior of an application to suit their taste and 
then force the change on thousands of users without the courtesy of soliciting 
user input, reliability on a product is completely destroyed. That needs to 

  Now do not twist this post into a post bashing gimp. It's not. Gimp has 
always been and remains a superb package for manipulating bitmap graphics. I 
appreciate and respect the hard work that has gone into making the package what 
it is. The goal is to make it better.

  The flexibility in the original file open/save/save as dialog was developed 
over a number of years with input from the user community to arrive at a dialog 
that met the needs of the user base and provided the most efficient way to save 
the file in front of the user in the manner he chose. That entire body of work 
that went into the design of the dialog has been thrown out on the whim of a 
few. The developers attempt to rationalize this abandonment of the dialog (post 
hoc) by suggesting this was the way to prevent advanced users from losing the 
complexities of an advanced drawing by inadvertent saving as a .jpg. Come on.

  A simple warning dialog advising that data loss will occur would suffice and 
was already provided. Moreover -- an advanced user losing his complex image by 
an inadvertent save -- not. Not to mention, the drawing and ALL layers are 
still present, right in front of the advanced user -- on the screen -- until 
the image is closed.

  Now we find ourselves in a situation where the community and user base has 
made clear their preference for the 2.6 style open/save dialog that preserves 
the choice of the user to save in whatever format they choose, but now 
developer pride is one the line. We made the change and we won't change back, 
we have already told you low-level users to go find another simply package if 
you don't like it. What a shame. The whole idea of open-source was the ability 
to meet the needs of the user community.

  It seems our developer community would do well to listen.

  The logical solution here is simple. Simply meet the needs of both those who 
like the old style dialogs and those that like the new by providing the 
_option_ to select which type dialog behavior to use. The code for each is 
already there, just make the behavior user selectable in the "Edit -> 
Preferences -> Interface" dialog. (or where ever you see fit) a simple check 
box labeled as follows would suffice:

[  ]  Use Gimp 2.6 File open/save Dialogs

  There is no reason that cannot be done in Gimp-2.8.1. Problem solved.

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