On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Elle Stone
<ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com> wrote:
> On 11/13/2014 09:51 AM, Jehan Pagès wrote:
>>> I take it as given that Pat, Jehan, and myself will do the actual work of
>>> assembling the images, yes? And all three of us will also contribute test
>>> images. We each have websites so we can put up pages with thumbnails of
>>> suggested test images for consideration.
>> Well for the "contribute test images" part, I'm not a photographer. I
>> have a good enough Canon camera and I can try to shoot some objects
>> with RAW on request though, but I won't guarantee the art quality for
>> these. Though you'll say that's not the purpose of this test set
>> anyway. :P
> Well, I think it's asking a lot to expect a test image to also be
> artistically pleasing, except for maybe for people's faces, and Pat David
> makes really good photographs of people's faces.
>> For the rest, yes, I can help organize, host if necessary, put up a
>> small website (nothing fancy, I'm not really into web UI design) or
>> something.
> If you are willing to put together a small website, that would be wonderful.
> Simple is better than complicated.

I'll do it soon.

> To allow for displaying and sorting through potential test images, I think
> jpeg image "large thumbnails" would suffice and would minimize demands on
> your server.
> For actual storage and distribution of a finished pack of test images plus
> associated raw files, server demands would go up. So that's a separate issue
> to be addressed.

I think I'll use TuxFamily which is my usual FLOSS community host when
I'm unsure my small server will handle correctly the load. So that
should not be a problem.

>> Also we should probably broaden the user list to encompass other FLOSS
>> graphics projects which would also be interested and can provide user
>> input and well as contribute photos. I don't think it should stay a
>> GIMP-only project.
> +1.

As soon as I finished the website, and as you validate the way the
project is presented (I'll do a small base text, but I'll expect
fixes), I'll try and reach out to several graphics project.
Also Steve Czajka from GIMP magazine said that if we can put up a
small text before the end of November, it should go into January
release without much problem (apparently GIMP magazine is getting
monthly from now on). So we should be able to gather interested people
this way, I hope. :-)

>> As for gathering user input for instance, if every potential
>> interested project (GIMP, ImageMagick, Krita, G'Mic... are the ones
>> I'd think without much searching) would make a blog post to ask user
>> input and later user raw photos once we got the input, we could have a
>> usable test image set in no times (which can anyway always improve
>> with time and more user input).
>> I think the first step would be a small simple page to present the
>> project with a way to contact us. We could have a basic survey there
>> "what are you looking for when you want test image and for what
>> purpose?". I can do such a thing.
> Sounds good to me.
> It might be nice to put up a page of sample test image "large thumbnails"
> comprising a mix of synthetic test images, colorful subjects, and faces. And
> we could include a list of links to existing useful but copyright-encumbered
> test images to give people an idea of the kinds of test images we'd like to
> put together.
> I can supply thumbnails of some of the synthetic and colorful test images
> that I've put together. Would "512px max dimension jpegs" be a good size?

I guess it is.

> The thumbnail images wouldn't represent any composite test images. But once
> we have a good set of images to work with, suitable composite test images
> would be easy to put together.
>> Then we can redirect people to this URI anytime, and ask projects to
>> do blog posts. Because staying email-only is a way to have the project
>> end up in limbo with time passing.
>> Then at some point, we go to the "gathering step" where we ask users
>> to send raw photos, ask them to accept the licensing (I would agree
>> with CC by and CC by-sa personally), and ask them to get the explicit
>> agreement of the model (maybe with a written agreement scan even?).
>> And of course we could present what we already have.
>> For the decisions on exact contents, I would let any of you in charge
>> though, since I am not the best fit to decide.
> That's a place where input from users would be really, really helpful.
> Otherwise the people putting together the test images don't know what other
> people would find useful.

Ok. :-)


> Elle
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