Hi Dave,

I might not have a serious problem with moving these inputs to the tools
options, though I don't know how much more cumbersome that would make use of
these tools for folks like me, especially considering that these really are
inputs, not options.  In my usage these inputs are used almost every single
time that I use these tools.  Perhaps a tool option could be provided that
would simply enable/disable the display of these values?

I strongly disagree with you with regard to considering these inputs as
simply "internal details exposed in the interface".  If you eliminate the
ability to provide these inputs, you make will make the GIMP almost totally
useless for folks like me who use the GIMP for technical illustration and
image manipulation purposes, rather than as a "paint" program or for photo
touchup work.

I don't doubt that your experiences are true, however they are limited to
the realm of your own experience and expertise, and may not apply to many
folks who are using the GIMP for other purposes.  I implore you to please
consider the rest of us, and not to limit the GIMP according to your
seemingly paint/photo centric view.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Neary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kevin Myers"
Cc: <gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies

> Hi Kevin,
> Selon Kevin Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I *completely* disagree with Jozsef regarding elimination of the
> > transformation dialogues that allow numeric input.  While these dialog
> > may not be very useful in Jozsef's workflow, they are *extremely* useful
> > mine, where graphics objects and images must be sized to exact numeric
> > specifications, not according to how they "look".  In fact the gimp
would be
> > almost completely useless for my purposes without these dialogs.
> > Jozsef's suggestion of a single transformation box could be practical
> > all of these, I can't say.
> At best, these inputs belong in the tool options. At worst, they're
> details exposed in the interface, and should more or less be invisible.
> Eliminating these dialogs, and the crop tool's pop-up, are high priorities
> 2.4 as far as I am concerned. Kevin, you might like them, but as someone
> regularly gives tutorials in the GIMP to people, and one of the most
> tasks is reframing or rotating a bad photo, these dialogs are completely
> confusing, and most people don't want them.
> Cheers,
> Dave.
> --
> Dave Neary
> Lyon, France

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