The conversion to compatible HTML went much faster than I imagined. It
looks like getting everybody comfortable with the tutorial is going to
be the longer part of the process.
I looked at the notes, if we need to make some changes we can, I would
rather not make a lot of changes if they aren't really necessary though.
Let me comment back about the notes, I am not sure what to do about them
at this point.
1. 'the term "macro" in the tutorial' - Where in the tutorial was it a
problem, and what was the suggested alternative? The term seemed
pretty descriptive and non-proprietary, so I don't know where the
problem lies. Part of the wikipedia description of macro is -
"Macros are used to make a sequence of computing instructions
available to the programmer as a single program statement, making
the programming task less tedious and less error-prone." I am not
stuck on using the term but would need to know what a better
suggestion would be.
2. 'have him look into the DIR-SEPARATOR constant' - Again I really
don't know what problem we are try to fix, the suggestion isn't very
specific. I would say that it is the usual case that you can write a
more efficient program - 2nd version - using a 1st version as a
working model. I would actually be kind of surprised if there
weren't several places where reviewing the code and productizing it
produced code that is better from an aesthetic and maintenance point
of view. But, that is kind of missing the point:
* This is an Automation Tutorial. The efficiency from being able
to edit 20 images in the time that it takes to edit one by hand.
* It is not a programming tutorial nor is a rolled out change to
Gimp. As I pointed out in the text - I am not a programmer. The
gimp - python environment is not great for debugging and in the
past it was not robust. If the code is working I would not be
inclined to mess with it. You could waste a lot of time by
trying to get too cute with 'enhancements'.
* If there is a real desire to productize the automation tools, I
would be happy to work on that effort, but I am not really that
interested in beautifying working code for a tutorial.
3. I think all of the Gimp Documentation should move to a Wiki. The
biggest hole in the documentation is topics not being covered and
coverage that is out of date. Lowering the threshold for people to
contribute would be a great way to address this. A Wiki seems like
it would allow for a larger amount of participation than the current
method of converting things to HTML by hand.
* My concern about moving the tutorial to a Wiki site, is whether
it would get buried in a corner of the internet that no one can
find. I certainly have no idea where this wiki is. It would be
a shame to do the work of writing a tutorial and then put it
where no one sees it.
* I think a Wiki format is great in that it can be kept current
and follow the changes of Gimp. As I said, I think all of the
documentation should be ported to a Wiki.
Anyway, if there are some specific things that need to be fixed, let me
know and we can address them. I can be fairly flexible with changes, I
just don't want to get into a loop - modifying code until someone like
it. That has no real / specific goal.
If there is a documenation Wiki, let me know where to look, I would like
to see what is there so far.
Thanks for all of your help!
On 2/20/2014 1:03 PM, Pat David wrote:
Just a couple of notes. There are some concerns about the
introduction of the term "macro" in the tutorial and the sense with
which it's used.
Also, saul has asked me to relay to you: "have him look into the
DIR-SEPARATOR constant. Using it would obviate about half of his code."
If you can take a look at DIR-SEPARATOR to see if perhaps it can help
streamline things a bit, that would be great. I'm also hoping others
might be able to chime in with other suggestions as well.
There is a consideration of moving this to the wiki as opposed to wgo
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Pat David <patda...@gmail.com
I've converted the tutorial to HTML to fit the website. I've
pushed it up along with the assets, and am now just waiting on
someone to poke wgo for it to show up. Keep an eye on the
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Stephen Kiel
<snick.k...@gmail.com <mailto:snick.k...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks. Let me know if there are any issues.
On Feb 20, 2014 7:27 AM, "Pat David" <patda...@gmail.com
You can just leave it as an ODT file. I'll make the
stylistic changes required to fit the website HTML.
Give me a little time and I'll make the conversion and get
it up to test.
Thanks for the contribution!
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