W dniu 28.08.2016 o 10:36, Johannes Schindelin pisze:
> On Sun, 28 Aug 2016, Jakub Narębski wrote:
>> W dniu 25.08.2016 o 14:58, Johannes Schindelin pisze:
>>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016, Eric Wong wrote:
>>>> Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schinde...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>> I just want developers who are already familiar with Git, and come up with
>>>>> an improvement to Git itself, to be able to contribute it without having
>>>>> to pull out their hair in despair.
>>>> We want the same thing. I just want to go farther and get
>>>> people familiar with (federated|decentralized) tools instead of
>>>> proprietary and centralized ones.
>>> Why require users to get familiar with (federated|decentralized) tools
>>> *unless* they make things provably more convenient? So far, I only see
>>> that this would add to the hurdle, not improve things.
>> Arguably for some federated/decentralized tools are preferred
>> (for philosophical reasons), even if they do not achieve even feature
>> parity with centralized tools (c.f. FSF).
Philosophical and ideological reasons.
> This statement is false. If you had talked about *your* preference, it
> would be true. But to state that federated/decentralized tools are
> universally preferred is nonsense.
The key word is "some" (or, if you prefer, "a few").
> You know as well as I do that most users/contributors go for convenience.
> And if you require an inconvenient step (e.g. subscribing to a
> federated/decentralized philosophy), most potential contributors simply
> stop being potential contributors. End of story.
For some people registering on GitHub and using web interface (though
I think there is also command line interface, don't know if it covers
PRs) would be the inconvenient step. Just saying.
What I would like to see is bidirectional bridge between email and
GitHub (and possibly other hosting sites), so that everybody could use
their favorite interface, be it Git + email client, or Git + web browser
(or desktop client for GitHub). Just like thanks to Gmane and Gmane-like
public-inbox I can use either email client or news reader, and it is
[nearly] transparent regarding to which one I use.
Even better if hosting site implementation (of pull requests, etc.)
were based on federated systems (like email, or Usenet, or IRC, or XMPP),
and not closed in walled gardens; with hosting site just being one
particular implementation (like e.g. Ghost blog engine, and Ghost Pro
I agree that lowering barriers to contribution for new class of users
(like MS Windows users; setting up MTA on Linux etc. for git-send-email
or git-imap-send is not very complicated), if it would be possible
without inconveniencing existing reviewers... which are even more
important, judging by the amount of "needs review" messages in
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