On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> wrote:
> On 2013-06-09 13:01:30 -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> >> You don't agree that 1) a collegial work environment is overrated, 2)
>> >> that the Linux kernel doesn't put an emphasis on being collegial, or
>> >> 3) that it's the most successful software project in history?
>> >
>> > Point 1.
>> Good, so we agree that a project doesn't need a collegial work
>> environment to be extremely and amazingly successful. In fact, any
>> rational person would keep an open mind to the fact that perhaps it
>> actually _helps_ to not have such environment, based on the evidence.
> Just from skimming both lists, most of the time I find lkml to be nicer
> (and more collegial) to read because it has a better atmosphere than
> git@ had in the last year or two.

A better atmosphere, yes, because they know how to avoid flamewars,
and concentrate on technical issues, not because they have a collegial
work environment.

Unless you think this reply[1] is collegial. Even though I haven't
been following Linux mailing lists that closely lately, I still manage
to see a lot of these kinds of replies.

> And yes, a good atmosphere plays an important role. One of the reasons
> is that it makes it easier to discern arguments based on personality
> disputes - which certainly exist on lk - from actual technical
> disagreements that need to be resolved.

That's right, but that's not because everyone is collegial in LKML,
which they most certainly are not. Linus being one of many examples.

[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.general/85952

Felipe Contreras
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