> Ok, well, unless @shiftee wants to make it so, thats not part of this PR

Why is dealing with bad interactions between features not part of a PR unless 
the submitter (solely) wants to make the change?

>  But until its done the default should be off.

I agree, but it can be done as part of this PR if we want to, by anyone, and is 
far simpler to do than the testing of this feature with all the related 
features/options will be before merging, so if nobody beats me to it, I might 
just do it myself while testing.

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