On Jan 17, 8:15 pm, okc chemist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David:
>
> I have stated several times in this thread that I am not an AGW
> denier. I am just trying to understand why it is nearly accepted as a
> proven fact, when like you say,100moreyearsof research are
> required.
Have you bothered to even look at the "Discovery of Global Warming"
web page that we pointed you to weeks ago?
The first research on CO2-induced global warming was done 150 years
ago by Tyndall.
>There is good evidence that the burning of fossil fuels
> accounts for the additional CO2 in the atmosphere, I am told, yet the
> C14(not 13?) ratio has increased only 0.15% against a normal variation
> of 0.05% Sounds pretty thin to me, in spite of some claiming it's a
> huge amount. It may be tough for me to comprehend, because in my work
> whether a sample contains 10 ppb of CCl4(which now I'm told isn't even
> organic)or 10.015 ppb is not exactly an Earth shattering difference.
> In fact, it would be well within the limits of precision and
> reproducibility and I would be very pleased with the result. By my
> standards, a trivial deviation with all kinds of possible sources of
> error, but still totally irrelevant.
>
> On Jan 16, 5:52 pm, "David B. Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 7:49 pm, okc chemist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I am familiar with both the C13 ratios and the role that GHGs play in
> > > keeping the planet heated to temperatures much more bearable for
> > > humans. ...
>
> > Apologies. I (and so you) meant C14/C12 ratios. I gather that you
> > accept that the excess carbon in the active carbon cycle is of fossil
> > origin, placed there by humans burning fossil fuels. I gather that
> > you accept that additional CO2 in the atmosphere (all else being
> > equal) will warm the planet. Then why do you not accept AGW?
>
> > Once the physics of global warming gases is understood (at least100
> >yearsnow) and once the source of the excess carbon is understood to
> > be anthropogenic, it seems to me that scientific methods directly
> > arrive at the conclusion of AGW.- Hide quoted text -
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