Robert,

And how and when do you believe the sun has changed?

Data or GTFO.

Thanks for the demonstration.

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Robert I Ellison <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Greetings from the flood zone.  I am fine - thank you - but
> traumatised by the deaths and angered and saddened by idiots who seek
> to make a political point out of tragedy.  Both sides of this argument
> are full of shit - intellectual featherweights who are instant
> internet experts on everything and are utterly convinced of their own
> logical infallibility.  Both sides angling to blame the deaths and
> destruction on the other.  I wish they would pull their f....... heads
> in.
>
> Rant over - I thought I would see if I could put a ruler under 20
> years of work.  Neither the floods or the current La Nina are notably
> unusual over the longer term - it is part of a Pacific decadal pattern
> that is likely to lead to decades more intense and frequent La Nina.
>
> see - http://www.earthandocean.robertellison.com.au/index.html
>
> As an Australian hydrologist, I was introduced to the concept of
> drought dominated and flood dominated regimes (DDR and FDR) in the
> late 1980’s. These are 20 to 40 year periods dominated by droughts
> followed by  a 20 to 40 year period dominated by floods.  The original
> result was replicated dozens of times across Australia in the
> following decade.  In 1997 the Pacific Decadal Oscillation was
> described defining a link between sea surface temperatures and
> fisheries biology.  The periods of the PDO modes were exactly the same
> as the periods of DDR and FDR.  An apparent but astonishingly odd link
> between North American fisheries and Australian rainfall.  Over the
> following decade it emerged that the PDO is part of a pattern of
> decadal and longer changes in sea surface temperature in the Pacific
> Basin with teleconnections to Asian, Australian, African and American
> rainfall - and seemingly to the formation of cyclones in the
> Atlantic.
>
> In 2003 I made the mistake of looking closely at the Climatic Research
> Unit surface temperature record - and saw that the inflection points
> are at exactly the same periods as the transitions between DDR and FDR
> and between PDO modes.  Still looking for the causes of DDR and FDR I
> read nearly everything that emerged on the PDO and the El Niño
> Southern Oscillation (ENSO).  However, without much of an idea
> anywhere of causative mechanisms, there was not much more than an
> intriguing similarity in the timing of changes.
>
> More recent work has identified the Pacific Ocean climate system as
> chaotic.  As I eventually realised, chaos is not just a word but a
> property of complex and dynamic systems in chaos theory.  It explains
> abruptness in the changes observed in ocean states and therefore in
> global temperature and in the transitions of Australian rainfall
> regimes.  It changes the way in which climate risk is viewed.  Where
> before, climate evolved slowly with cycles of minor warming and
> cooling in a system that is far from driven solely by greenhouse gas
> forcing.  After chaos theory, climate change is abrupt and predictable
> only as a probability density function.  There is objectively a small
> risk of catastrophic climate change (warming or cooling) that could
> happen within months as a result of anthropogenic greenhouse gas
> emissions.
>
> Currently, revisions to existing satellite records, new data sources
> for radiative flux and ocean heat content, new theoretical work and
> computer modeling and new compilations of surface cloud observations
> are providing new ways of confirming a Pacific Ocean influence on
> global climate.  The picture that emerges is of the Pacific Ocean as
> far and away the major driver of global climate.  It does this
> primarily by changing cloud formation dynamics.  More cloud forms
> above cold water - and the biggest change to sea surface temperature
> on interannual, decadal and millennial scales occurs as a result of
> upwelling of  cold and nutrient rich (and also acidic) sub-surface
> water in the eastern Pacific.  These changes in cloud cover are seen
> in surface observations of cloud over the Pacific, in satellite
> measurements of reflected shortwave and outgoing long wave radiation
> and in modeling studies.  Most recent climate change has been as a
> result of changing cloud cover.
>
> And the cause of these changes? A small change in the initial
> conditions of a complex and dynamic system that most probably involves
> top down forcing by solar UV heating of ozone in the upper
> atmosphere.  As Judith Lean says - ‘ongoing studies are beginning to
> decipher the empirical Sun-climate connections as a combination of
> responses to direct solar heating of the surface and lower atmosphere,
> and indirect heating via solar UV irradiance impacts on the ozone
> layer and middle atmospheric, with subsequent communication to the
> surface and climate. The associated physical pathways appear to
> involve the modulation of existing dynamical and circulation
> atmosphere-ocean couplings, including the ENSO and the Quasi-Biennial
> Oscillation.'
>
> Cheers
> Robert
>
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