Thanks again, Kenneth and Andy. I use Archive all the time -- it just doesn't help for this particular situation. Because a new message for an archived conversation brings the conversation back to the Inbox, I had to *visually* distinguish between new conversations and old conversations with new messages. We determined earlier that I couldn't do this by using Filters.
(I explained in my last post why I would want to make such a distinction. It probably differs from the way 99% of Gmail users handle their mail and/or Facebook notifications. But it's the way that works for me.) Mute is continuing to be my solution. I agree that it seems to have worked sporadically in the past, but so far -- knock on wood -- it is behaving correctly, and Muted conversations are staying out of the Inbox. --APB On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Kenneth Ayers <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok, though just archiving emails as you read them would work just as well. > And you wouldn't have to perform any search. New conversation arrives in > inbox, you read it and archive it. If another email arrives for that same > archived conversation, it automatically gets moved back to the inbox. So > you then read the new email and archive it again. > > I think mute is just for conversations that you don't even want to deal > with anymore, which doesn't seem to apply to your needs in this case. > > Regards, > > Kenneth > On Jul 30, 2015 9:53 AM, "APB" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you, Kenneth and Andy. I'm glad to understand better about >> labels. This will no doubt help me in searching in the future. >> >> As for my immediate issue, I found that the best solution for me was to >> Mute the new conversations as I read them. (I had originally said that I >> wanted to see *all* new messages in the Inbox, but I changed my mind.) >> >> Now, the new conversations come to the Inbox, and the old conversations >> with new messages are findable via a search for "is:muted is:unread". (And >> I made a Quick Link for that search, of course.) >> >> (Just to provide context: What I'm dealing with are question + >> multiple-answer posts on Facebook, for which I get notifications by email. >> It has proved to be more efficient for me to go from the initial post >> notification by email, to Facebook to set the post for further >> notifications, and back to email to read the rest of the thread, than to do >> everything on Facebook. Not necessarily the solution for everyone, but it >> works for me.) >> >> --APB >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Andy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:02 PM, APB <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm trying to figure out how to isolate conversations which have only 1 >>>> message in them. >>>> >>> >>> I think there is no automatic way to do THAT. FYI. >>> >>> All the conversations in question are assigned a label by a filter. >>>> (Let's call the label "ABC".) >>>> >>>> As I read the new conversations, I manually assign an additional label >>>> to them. (Let's call it "XYZ".) >>>> >>>> It seems to me that if I search for "label:ABC -{label:XYZ}", I should >>>> see only the ABC conversations which do not have the XYZ label, but it's >>>> not working. >>>> >>>> It appears that when a new message arrives in one of the conversations >>>> I've labeled XYZ, it sort of overrides the XYZ label, so that my search >>>> does not exclude the conversation. >>>> >>> >>> That's because the new message doesn't have the XYZ label yet, so it >>> matches your search. >>> >>> This is the way messages and conversations work. Labels are attached to >>> messages, not to conversations. When you do a search, it searches for >>> messages that meet your search criteria. If you have conversation view >>> enabled, it delivers the results to you in conversations. Other messages >>> that are in the same conversation with ones that match your search, will >>> "go along for the ride". >>> >>> You can disable this by turning conversation view OFF. Then you will no >>> longer see those messages that have the XYZ label already. >>> >>> But labels are applied to whole conversations, not just individual >>>> messages, are they not? >>>> >>> >>> They are not. They are applied to messages. >>> >>> When you manually add them, they might attach to every message in the >>> displayed conversation; but just the same, all labels are attached to >>> messages. >>> >>> 1. Removing a label is more work than adding one; >>>> >>> >>> That's odd that you say that, because I find it's exactly the opposite. >>> >>> Removing a label is as easy as clicking on the "x" next to the label's >>> name, at the top of the message. >>> >>> If you do the drop-down menu method, again it is easier to remove one >>> than adding one because the label you want to remove is right there at the >>> top of the list, and you don't need to scroll down to find the new label >>> you want to add, or type it in manually. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Gmail-Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Gmail-Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Gmail-Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Gmail-Users" group. 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