Yavor Doganov wrote:

>> I see little reason that people shouldn't submit new free programs
>> to Debian and wait for it to propagate down.  
> 
> Really?  If you are maintaining a program that is part of the GNU
> Project, would you feel comfortable seeing it in Debian crippled?

Can you give examples of this type of crippling?

> And then arriving, after an unknown period, to gNewSense, passing through
> Ubuntu, crippled in the same way?  

Ubuntu doesn't modify most debian packages at all.  As for an "unknown
period", that's a (serious) fault of gNewSense, not Ubuntu.

>> It is a failure, but not a critical one because it is still possible to
>> use entirely free software.
> 
> Certainly it is possible -- it is possible with Debian, Fedora,
> Gentoo, etc.  The question is how we educate the users.  If the
> community, on a general basis, decides that non-free software is an
> integral part of every significant distribution -- that clearly is a
> failure that cannot be corrected by Builder.  It can be corrected if
> we BUILD the whole thing matching the values and the standpoint of our
> Movement and the ideals we fight for.

I agree.  The ideals should be paramount.

Matt Flaschen


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