On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 15:17, Bruce Dawson wrote: > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 14:19, Rob Lembree wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:56, Bruce Dawson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:21, Rob Lembree wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:06, Bruce Dawson wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 08:26, Ed Lawson wrote: > > > > > > On 27 Jan 2004 22:13:06 -0500 > > > > > > Bruce Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We have the paperwork complete, and I am willing to donate the > > > > $25 filing fee -- but I haven't done it yet because I've seen > > > > a complete vacuum in people coming forward to help do things > > > > with the group. > > > Thanks for donating the fee - I never knew what was going on with that > > > because no one bothered to post a message to the -org list. > > I've sat on it because while I still think it's the right thing > > to do, I haven't been able to invigorate the group to make it > > a complete picture. > > Ok. That explains that. But can you describe the complete picture and > what's missing? (I was under the impression that only some signatures > and claims to responsibility were required - which we had at one point.)
The complete picture is a functional organization that is doing education about Linux. If I'm not mistaken, the paperwork calls that out as our purpose. Maybe (but slightly maybe) the mail list qualifies, our occasional meetings qualify, but there's nothing else. If we can get projects started and healthy like the library work, and like Ed's workshop possibility, THEN it makes sense. In short, we need to be doing things that fulfills our mission. > > Well, ya, the core group can't do all the work, and by and > > large, that's what we've done for quite a while now. > > I find myself asking the question: why don't people want to work with > us? Either everyone has highly pressing jobs, or its too difficult to > coordinate work. And its just not "fun" (a side effect of being a "geek > social club" I think). > > How many of our "members" are on sourceforge projects? I suspect the > answer is near zero. I'd believe that. Most of our members are users and sysadmins, or do coding for hire. > Rob: If you put the library on sourceforge or savannah or somesuch, do > you think you'd get a better response? Eh, it's a local project, and it needs local contribution. People burning CDs, printing docs and dropping it off. Ideal for a LUG, less ideal for a distributed project. > I think we've all tried creating a "GNHLUG project". From Jerry's > Business Show to my generally giving up on the idea due to lack of > commitment. I was never able to overcome that. > > As for your projects, at that time, I was over-committed at work - and > lately (and no offense) - library packages don't appeal to me. If > someone were to pay me to work on them, then I'd probably consider it, > but its not something I want to do on my own time. It's not a library package. It's making CDs available for the library to put out in circulation. I thought that was clear, but maybe not.... > The projects I would work on have to be *very easy* for me to pick up > and put down. They would most likely have to be based on savannah or > sourceforge (if only those tools were more reliable) and they would have > to be 90% coding and/or documenting. Specifications would have to be at > least 80% technical, 0% style, and less than 5% political (getting > buy-in on techniques). Projects meeting those specs are the only ones I > can afford to work on - even Carole's projects have to meet them! Here's an example: you like Mandrake for example. A new mandrake comes along, you download it for yourself anyway, and you burn an extra copy for the library, print out a 'readme' and deliver it to the library. Pretty easy, really. As for me, I'm doing RH9, TheOpenCD and knoppix. > But I suspect others might have similar requirements. And most people > aren't familiar with the tools (hmmm: that could be a meeting topic), > and if anyone else is like me, their experience tells them that > coordinating a software engineering effort is harder than herding cats. I wouldn't even bother doing a sw eng project with the LUG. It's not the appropriate forum for doing that. SF would be better. -- Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC _______________________________________________ Gnhlug-org mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
