Jerry Feldman wrote:
> Secondly, testing is not a lab function. Today, most software
> development is performed at the desktop, and at least unit tested at the
> desktop. In general, the developer should never, ever give untested code
> to the test/QA people. More advanced testing, such as integration,
> regression, is certainly a lab function.
I disagree. If something is not production ready (i.e. still under
development), then is does not belong in a production environment. It
belongs in a cocoon. There is no telling what sort of damage a test
system can do to a network.
> The bottom line is that in the past 9 years or so I could not have done my
> job without root privs. In my previous Digital contract, I had 3 systems in
> my office. My personal Unix workstation, where I probably did not have a
> requirement for root. I had another Unix system where I tested my kernel
> mods, and a third system (alpha NT) where I tested the assemblers.
Again, I disagree (but I bet you guessed that by now ;-). I am not
saying that you shouldn't have root on any box, ever. I am saying that
you (collectively) are more then welcome to have root on lab machines
that are not connected to the production environment in any way, and
that this is where your development should be done. I personally cannot
understand why it is so insulting to users to not be allowed root. It is
for the good of the entire user community that root access be limited to
those responsible.
Kenny
> On 21 Jun 2000, at 15:05, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
>
> > Two points here:
> > 1) No, engineers do *NOT* "need to".. Engineers *WANT* to. Testing is a
> > lab function.
> Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Associate Director
> Boston Linux and Unix user group
> http://www.blu.org
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